Does anyone know this 63??

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Does anyone know this 63??

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I just sold my 65 Monza Conv. and in its replacement, I've been eyeing an EM Conv. Spyder. I came across this one on Hemmings and it is close enough for me to go inspect the car before purchase, however, I was just wondering if anyone in the area/Corvair world knows of the car. I know it's a longshot but figured I'd throw it out there, thanks.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/ca ... 13536.html
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They sure included a ton of detailed photographs with the listing!

You might consider contacting one of the CORSA club chapters in eastern Pennsylvania to inquire about this car. The local CORSA club chapter may have members who are familiar with it.

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Thanks Brad, I've reached out to the local PA chapter and hopefully will get some additional info.

On another note I received a picture of the body tag and the engine number and from what I gather, the car is a legitimate spyder but the engine has me stumped - '65 110 / PG??

https://photos.app.goo.gl/cB694bUWyx1N4tDs8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/DJYC4BEhJnWaCW9b8
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That tells you that someone has replaced the engine at some point. No way to tell if they used the entire bottom end from the PG car or not without taking it apart. That would seriously reduce the value in my opinion. The turbo blocks aren't anything special but the '63 turbo rods were stronger and the crank was nitrided. If you could get the head numbers you would find out if they are turbo heads. It could be a complete PG 110 engine with the turbo bolted on.
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T0828RH
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T = Tonawanda, New York (GM Tonawanda Engine Plant)
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/comp ... wanda.html
0828 = Engine manufacturing date (month and date). August 28th. "RH" is from 1965-1967 (No year is included in the date stamp, unfortunately).
RH = 1965-1967 110hp — 164 CID (Cubic Inch Displacement), 9:1 Compression Ratio, with Powerglide Automatic Transmission — Corvair 500 and Monza only.


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I will decode the body tag for you...

Here is a breakdown of the information on the body tag you provided...
BODY TAG INFO:

01D
Body Build Date: 01 = January (1963), D = Fourth Week
The first digits are numbers 1 through 12, indicating the month of manufacture. The letter is A-E, indicate the week of the month. If the letter is a "D" it indicates the fourth week of the month.
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STYLE 63 0967 WR 16797 BODY
63 = 1963
Model 0967 — 2-Door Monza Convertible — 4 Passenger, 09 = 900 Series Monza, 67 = 2-Door Convertible,
WR = Willow Run, Michigan Production Plant, Production Sequence No: 16797
1963 Monza Spyder 2-Door Convertible — 4 Passenger, Total Production: 7,472.
(1963 Monza Convertible — 4 Passenger, Total Production: 36,693)

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TRIM 1-712
This 3 digit codes represents the interior color and seat type. An extra digit is include for 1963-64 convertibles for the top color.
1 - 712 = WHITE convertible top, BLACK interior (Monza with Bucket Seats)
This 3 digit codes represents the interior paint and upholstery color and seat type.
Top color codes:
1963: 1 = white 2 = black 3 = beige

BODY PAINT 948
948-7 = MAROON "Palomar Red" with Black Interior
WRN has the extra digit for interior paint on the Paint section. Ex. 948-7 = Red with black interior paint
1963: 2= Blue 3= Aqua 4= Fawn 5= Red 7= Black 8= Saddle R = White/Red.
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Lucite No. 4289L, Rinshed-Mason No. A1536, Ditzler No. DDL50633

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1963 Corvair Monza Coupe Example (In Palomar Red)

ACC: 2CD 3C

Willow Run body tag accessory codes

Group 1
NONE

Group 2
C = RPO — Padded dash
D = RPO — Power top

Group 3
C = RPO L87 — Turbocharged Spyder option) :clap: (RPO G95, REAR AXLE 3.55:1 is Required)

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  1. not actually but having the appearance of; pretended; false or spurious; sham.
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i.e, CLOSE, BUT NO CIGAR! (Actual Spyder car, but substitute non-turbo engine.

NOTE: This could be a good thing. The 110hp engine has decent performance, better gas mileage, and a good reputation for reliability. The 1963 turbo engine was somewhat lacking in gas mileage and reliability, but was a lot of fun while it lasted! You might be able to use the missing Spyder engine to negotiate a lower selling price. BETTER THAN A MONZA, BUT NOT QUITE A SPYDER.

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