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[corvden]

Hi all, Dennis from Australia, ride is a 67 Monza Coupe, 140hp, PG, AC. Whilst I have looked at this site for some information, thought I should join. Have seen 3 Corvairs including mine, an early Convertible and a Sports Sedan race car, which was basically a Formula 5000 (5ltr motor) open wheeler with Corvair panels, but they are pretty sparse on the ground down here.
Cheers for now

[Phil Dally]

WELCOME!!!

We really like pictures...please post.

[Frank DuVal]

[66vairguy]

Welcome --- over the years I've seen a couple other folks with Corvairs from Australia and one from New Zealand post on different forums. As you say, not common down there.

A 67 with 140HP, PG, and A/C is a rare combination. It may not be all original, but that if fine. Plenty of modified Corvairs.

Note the 140HP with PG was a "special" engine if original. You can post engine number and pictures and we can tell you if it is the special engine (different from 140HP engine built for manual transmission cars).

[corvden]

Hi All,
Sorry for not responding or posting pics, will do when I take some better-quality ones & time prevails. Also still learning to navigate around the forum, even how to have a sign off with my car details.

As for the originality of my car, I was very skeptical when I bought it, knowing less than 300 genuine 140hp motors were produced in 1967. My guess engine is a 110hp with 140hp heads & carbs added at some stage, presume PG is standard crawling under car (very difficult with axle stands) couldn't see any orange paint on PG. Find the various engine numbers & build plates a bit confusing, engine number is TOI28RH, RH leads me to above conclusion think was built January 28. But is a Willow Run built Monza Coupe with Granada Gold paint, had very poor original gold carpet which I couldn't replace, but bought the closest colour I could from Clarks (very happy with their service).

Not sure if I should start a new thread or not on the next topic, which happened after I joined forum (there will always be something with old vehicles).

Problem heater fan & AC fan do not work, standard fuses are all good, as both fans are affected, I doubt it is the fans that are the problem, AC compressor turns on. Do not know how to test the fusible link in the trunk or just replace it, or what else to check?
Any guidance most appreciated.

[Frank DuVal]

Both fans get their power through the dash controls. Both for speed and the COOL lever hits a switch to change between the AC or the heater blower. Need to do a little electrical troubleshooting. You can use the electrical diagram of the AC in the 65 shop manual.

[66vairguy]

I was just backing up the computer and decided to browse the last posts of the day. This will be brief.

Some pictures of your A/C equipment would help determine if it is factory (first timers have trouble posting pics here so feel free to ask). I have one 66 original A/C car and another 66 I installed factory A/C into.

A picture of your dash HVAC controls would help. If it is a factory setup I'll explain what I suspect your problem is. Keep in mind A/C on 67 Corvairs was uncommon. Partly due to the new emissions control equipment that required a complex pulley setup to run the compressor, alternator, and air injection pump. The build plate codes will tell you if the car is a factory A/C car - a rare item on the 67 model year cars. I suspect your car's emission control equipment has been removed.

Nothing wrong if someone added A/C. Pictures will tell if factory parts, or aftermarket add on.

The 1967 model year Corvair Chassis Shop Manual has some A/C documentation in Section 15 "Heater and Accessories", AS Frank said it is the nearly the same as the 65 Chassis manual. The wiring diagram is difficult to read and understand and has errors. Additionally the 67 cars had a revised wiring harness and there are a few errors in the diagrams.

If your pictures indicate a factory A/C configuration, the I'll suggest what to check.

[jimbrandberg]

The John Player Special Corvair in Australia was one of the coolest Corvairs ever, basically a Formula 5000 with a Corvair looking body. They took advantage of a glitch in the rules and cleaned up for a year or two.
I have a T-shirt but "I'm A Player" is not a message I want to walk around with.

10 years ago when the Speed Channel was still on they had Australian V-8 Supercar racing with Holdens and such. Very competitive and fun to watch. I think that's sort of where we got the Pontiac GTO from 2006 or so.

[66vairguy]

The John Player Special Corvair in Australia was one of the coolest Corvairs ever, basically a Formula 5000 with a Corvair looking body. They took advantage of a glitch in the rules and cleaned up for a year or two.
I have a T-shirt but "I'm A Player" is not a message I want to walk around with.

10 years ago when the Speed Channel was still on they had Australian V-8 Supercar racing with Holdens and such. Very competitive and fun to watch. I think that's sort of where we got the Pontiac GTO from 2006 or so.

When they actually made cars in Australia -- they had some great automotive competitions. Not sure nowadays as Holden (GM), Ford, and Chrysler are GONE.

Decades ago I was visited Australia --- WOW talk about conservative speed limits and drinking alcohol and driving resulted in considerable punishment!!! I was out driving in the middle of nowhere many miles from any population and had not see a car on the road for half an hour and encountered a SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERA!!!! Best to take it easy if you drive there.

[RexJohnson]

'67 still has the option codes on the body tag so it should be real easy to see if it is factory installed A/C. In '67 the smog system was only mandatory in CA so unless someone ordered the car with both A/C and smog then most of the non CA A/C cars wouldn't have the smog system. It is my understanding that none of the COPO 140 cars in '67 had A/C? If that is the case and it is a factory A/C car then the 140 was added.

[corvden]

I was just backing up the computer and decided to browse the last posts of the day. This will be brief.

Some pictures of your A/C equipment would help determine if it is factory (first timers have trouble posting pics here so feel free to ask). I have one 66 original A/C car and another 66 I installed factory A/C into.

A picture of your dash HVAC controls would help. If it is a factory setup I'll explain what I suspect your problem is. Keep in mind A/C on 67 Corvairs was uncommon. Partly due to the new emissions control equipment that required a complex pulley setup to run the compressor, alternator, and air injection pump. The build plate codes will tell you if the car is a factory A/C car - a rare item on the 67 model year cars. I suspect your car's emission control equipment has been removed.

Nothing wrong if someone added A/C. Pictures will tell if factory parts, or aftermarket add on.

The 1967 model year Corvair Chassis Shop Manual has some A/C documentation in Section 15 "Heater and Accessories", AS Frank said it is the nearly the same as the 65 Chassis manual. The wiring diagram is difficult to read and understand and has errors. Additionally the 67 cars had a revised wiring harness and there are a few errors in the diagrams.

If your pictures indicate a factory A/C configuration, the I'll suggest what to check.

Happy to put my hand up I need help to post pictures, then I will.

There is no emission equipment on the car, the AC bits all appear to be from original Corvair (my reference point is other pictures), the condenser is in the correct 67 position (not over the engine), the HVAC controls appear original with 1 HEAT, 2 DEF, 3 AIR (whilst slides no resistance, correctly does not work for 67), 4 COOL, Fan switch above. Compressor appears original, however bracket not complete, compressor only attached at one end, nothing at other end, my guess all added well after the factory. I still do not completely understand the build plate codes, next to TR 713-E2M5Y.

I have 65 & 67 Corvair Chassis manuals, Bob Helt The Classic Corvair tenth edition & Richard Finch How to keep your Corvair alive, also a CORSA member. Checked the under hood terminal that fan wiring is plugged in to, the spring looking things looked good & didn't smell, I doubt that is the problem.

[corvden]

The John Player Special Corvair in Australia was one of the coolest Corvairs ever, basically a Formula 5000 with a Corvair looking body. They took advantage of a glitch in the rules and cleaned up for a year or two.
I have a T-shirt but "I'm A Player" is not a message I want to walk around with.

10 years ago when the Speed Channel was still on they had Australian V-8 Supercar racing with Holdens and such. Very competitive and fun to watch. I think that's sort of where we got the Pontiac GTO from 2006 or so.

When they actually made cars in Australia -- they had some great automotive competitions. Not sure nowadays as Holden (GM), Ford, and Chrysler are GONE.

Decades ago I was visited Australia --- WOW talk about conservative speed limits and drinking alcohol and driving resulted in considerable punishment!!! I was out driving in the middle of nowhere many miles from any population and had not see a car on the road for half an hour and encountered a SPEED ENFORCEMENT CAMERA!!!! Best to take it easy if you drive there.

Australia is very conservative with many Revenue Cameras around, especially in Victoria where they are hidden under bridges. Are most famous racetrack Bathurst being a street circuit, I did a couple of laps of this amazing track (not in the Corvair), but you wouldn't want to risk speeding & being photographed by the revenue cameras. The main racing is now Mustangs v's Camaros, although they are heavily regulated to be as similar in speed as possible.
Yes the Pontiac GTO was a Holden Monaro, which was a two-door version of the Holden Commodore.

[66vairguy]

Corvden I missed your one post earlier - Yes it sounds like you have a factory A/C unit.

I have a revised schematic I made and it should be close enough to use for trouble shooting 67. The diagram in the manual is confusing and in 66 had an error, not sure if they fixed it in 67 diagram.

I'll will PM (private message on forum) you my email. Respond and I'll email the diagram and some advice. Regards.