1963 Spyder Turbo Convertible

Victorialynn2 · Post by **Victorialynn2** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:24 pm

Looking for opinions on value for this car. My father likes to keep cars original and I wouldn't be surprised if it has matching numbers as most of his cars do. He has AZ so can not help me. I've sold many of his cars and didn't want to part with this one, but I must. This hasn't run in a while, haven't tried to start it and he has owned it since the 1980's.

Please only post if you want to help, not if you are looking to take advantage of the situation. I appreciate all helpful info.

Pics; https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing

64powerglide · Post by **64powerglide** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:40 pm

Bad link, attach photo's please.

Victorialynn2 · Post by **Victorialynn2** » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:54 pm

Oops... sorry
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1j_R ... E15RUdiLXc

Post by **bbodie52** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:02 am

Here are the nine images, for your convenience... It looks like an original 1963 Spyder convertible is equipped with rare Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels! If the car is a California car and generally rust-free, those wheels may add significantly to the value of the car! Don't attempt to start it with stale fuel and fluids. The turbocharged engine should be carefully checked out and all fluids flushed and replaced.

Kelsey Hayes wire wheels were offered as an option on Corvairs from approximately 1962 through 1964. While I have yet to see any reliable source for the number of Corvairs so equipped between these years, I have seen numbers reported as low as 300 sets to as high as 500 sets. It is important to note that a full set of Kelsey Hayes wheels consisted of five wheels, four active and one spare. Regardless of the actual number of Corvairs equipped with Kelsey Hayes wheels, most sources note that as a $495 option on a $2,810 car, this option was a major expense and few owners appeared to be up for the expense.

Kelsey Hayes wire wheels as a package on a Corvair, consist of the following parts:

1. Five Wheels
2. Four Adapters
3. Four Knock-Offs
4.One spare tire adapter
5.One lead hammer

http://www.corvairspyder.com/Kelsey_Hay ... heels.html

This 1963 Corvair Monza Spyder Coupe with real wire wheels sold on eBay for $10,499!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Chevrolet- ... 7675.l2557

Here is a restored 1964 Spyder convertible equipped with Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels...

And another rare 1962...

http://www.corvaircorsa.com/2000-25.html

The rare Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels can be a big attraction... especially if they are in good condition!

And another restored EM convertible...

Only 7,472 1963 Spyder convertibles were built. With the wire wheel option, it could be worth quite a bit if it proves to be rust free, and if a Corvair mechanic spent some time with it to get it running and detailed a bit. Such an effort might greatly increase its value on the market! Where is the car located?

b74eqcm · Post by **b74eqcm** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:16 am

I think the difference in value between 'hasn't been run in a while' and a running and driving car is a lot. I think it would make sense to have someone from a local Corvair club go through it and get it running and checked out. A clean car that can be test driven is worth thousands more than a 'ran when parked.' Especially with a Spyder, mechanical engine issues can cost thousands to fix.

As always, it's worth what someone will pay for it. As it sits? $3-4,000? But cleaned up and running? If the floors etc are rust free? More like $7-9,000. So even if you spent a $500 or $1,000 to get it right, it would be well worth it. If you don't want to put in that effort, you may be disappointed in what you can get. Don't let your sentimental value influence what you can actually get. One of the things we love (and sometimes hate) about Corvairs is that they have remained relatively inexpensive as a way into the classic car hobby (or obsession).

Hope this helps.

64powerglide · Post by **64powerglide** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:12 am

Not original, seats, rocker trim missing, engine paint, interior paint. Lower end of the scale. If it's in good running condition $6,000 to $7,000 on a good day maybe $8,000. No photo's of undercarriage. Not the quality of the 61 Rampside from what I see. Good luck though.

Victorialynn2 · Post by **Victorialynn2** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:59 am

It looks like an original 1963 Spyder convertible equipped with rare Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels! If the car is a California car and generally rust-free, those wheels may add significantly to the value of the car! Don't attempt to start it with stale fuel and fluids. The turbocharged engine should be carefully checked out and all fluids flushed and replaced.

Only 7,472 1963 Spyder convertibles were built. With the wire wheel option, it could be worth quite a bit if it proves to be rust free, and if a Corvair mechanic spent some time with it to get it running and detailed a bit. Such an effort might greatly increase its value on the market! Where is the car located?

Thank you! There is another wheel as well as some parts in the area the car is stored. It doesn't have rust. It's located about 2 hours west of Austin. I will contact a local club.

Thanks for the info!

Victorialynn2 · Post by **Victorialynn2** » Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:01 am

Don't let your sentimental value influence what you can actually get. One of the things we love (and sometimes hate) about Corvairs is that they have remained relatively inexpensive as a way into the classic car hobby (or obsession).

Thanks, as a former Realtor I do understand I can't let sentimental value influence it's asking price.

Victorialynn2 · Post by **Victorialynn2** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:40 pm

It looks like an original 1963 Spyder convertible is equipped with rare Kelsey-Hayes wire wheels! If the car is a California car and generally rust-free, those wheels may add significantly to the value of the car! Don't attempt to start it with stale fuel and fluids. The turbocharged engine should be carefully checked out and all fluids flushed and replaced.

Kelsey-Hayes Wire Wheels.jpg

Kelsey Hayes wire wheels were offered as an option on Corvairs from approximately 1962 through 1964. While I have yet to see any reliable source for the number of Corvairs so equipped between these years, I have seen numbers reported as low as 300 sets to as high as 500 sets. It is important to note that a full set of Kelsey Hayes wheels consisted of five wheels, four active and one spare. Regardless of the actual number of Corvairs equipped with Kelsey Hayes wheels, most sources note that as a $495 option on a $2,810 car, this option was a major expense and few owners appeared to be up for the expense.

Kelsey Hayes wire wheels as a package on a Corvair, consist of the following parts:

1. Five Wheels
2. Four Adapters
3. Four Knock-Offs
4.One spare tire adapter
5.One lead hammer

Only 7,472 1963 Spyder convertibles were built. With the wire wheel option, it could be worth quite a bit if it proves to be rust free, and if a Corvair mechanic spent some time with it to get it running and detailed a bit. Such an effort might greatly increase its value on the market!

So I took a pic of the Fischer Tag which I believe does verify it's a Spyder. I also found more of the wheels, which appear to be in excellent shape. Found some other related wheels also. There are also a lot of parts in the room. Fuel pumps, carburetors, trim, bumpers, etc. Not sure if they are all for Corvairs or other cars as well. I have more digging to do.