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Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:50 pm
by RKF
Did GM have a standard for the position of the window crank. For example was the crank pointing to 2:00, or some other position, with the window all the way up? Just trying to get things right.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 5:56 pm
by gbullman
I always position so with window closed the handle is straight up. Figure closed is a good reference and straight up is out of the way

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2024 7:48 pm
by Frank DuVal
And for an opposing viewpoint, I put the driver's side window cranks at 4 PM and the passenger's side at 8 PM (or AM, doesn't matter, I should have written o'clock... :rolling: ). Well if the knob does not hit my knee! I might be off slightly. I mean my handle positioning might be off slightly, I know I'm off.... :rolling:

Funny, There seems to be NO agreement on other GM forums!!!!!! Although 10 o'clock for the passenger side (2 o'clock on driver) is also mentioned more than once. :chevy:

If your knee hits it with the window closed, it is wrong, that we can all agree on!
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Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 3:34 am
by rcavictor
It seems that sometimes you can get an idea of what GM was intending from the interior brochures. Making an assumption the window was in the ‘up’ position…

Not sure if you have an EM or LM

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:56 am
by vairmech
I look at it this way, you generally want the window to stay up when you have it closed. So I crank the window up until it is closed and then position the handle so the handle weight helps keep the window closed. On the driver's side this is generally anywhere between the 8 o'clock to 10 o'clock position. The pass side of course would be 2 and 4. Whatever you do make it consistent throughout the car.

Why the symmetrical positions you ask? On the driver's side the handle cranks counter clockwise and the pass crank clockwise to roll up the windows.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:59 am
by 66vairguy
vairmech wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 4:56 am I look at it this way, you generally want the window to stay up when you have it closed. So I crank the window up until it is closed and then position the handle so the handle weight helps keep the window closed. On the driver's side this is generally anywhere between the 8 o'clock to 10 o'clock position. The pass side of course would be 2 and 4. Whatever you do make it consistent throughout the car.

Why the symmetrical positions you ask? On the driver's side the handle cranks counter clockwise and the pass crank clockwise to roll up the windows.
CORRECT --- the hand crank weight will make a difference due to constant body vibrations as the car goes down the road!!

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:08 pm
by 2LZ
On any car I've replaced a crank on, even my old customers cars, I cranked the window all the way up and mounted the handle pointing away from my arm on the arm rest, so it didn't bug them or be in the way. It only took one complaint (come back) to learn the lesson.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:16 pm
by 66vairguy
2LZ wrote: Sun Apr 07, 2024 5:08 pm On any car I've replaced a crank on, even my old customers cars, I cranked the window all the way up and mounted the handle pointing away from my arm on the arm rest, so it didn't bug them or be in the way. It only took one complaint (come back) to learn the lesson.
On my LM the window winder handle is high on the door. I have the handle and knob horizontal and toward the rear. Handle weight helps keep the window up and it keeps the knob away from my leg and the area you reach to turn on the headlights.

Just me.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 3:09 pm
by irfgt
My 1969 Corvair with 93 miles on it has the passenger front handle at about the 7:30 position and the rear right handle is at about the 3:30 position. The left side is of course the opposite. I doubt the handles have ever been off the car.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:07 pm
by 66vairguy
I wonder if there is anything in the Shop Manual, Fisher Body Manual, or the factory Assembly Manual.

I suspect if the factory Assembly Manual does not state what position the handle goes on, then the factory workers did whatever was convenient for them.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 7:15 pm
by Frank DuVal
My 1969 Corvair with 93 miles on it has the passenger front handle at about the 7:30 position


This is exactly what I remember from working on unmolested cars back in the late 70s. :dogrun: :dogrun: :dogrun: :dogrun: :drinkinbuddy: :dogrun: :dogrun: :dogrun:

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:09 am
by Lane66Monza
I have mine at 1 -2 position. It does not vibrate down while driving. Now when window is full down, handle is at 6:00 position. Neither position contacts my knee when I drive it. Nor does it contact my wife's knee, but she drives like a lady, not a grunting mechanic man. ::-):

Now, if you position your handle at any other position to clear the knee, I think a man's knee could hit the handle when it is full down. Now, I have to assume the window is rolled down fully and then handle rolled to move it away from the knee for comfort. :my02:

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:36 am
by joelsplace
Now you guys have given me something else to be annoyed by. I had never thought about my knee hitting the window crank before.

Re: Window Crank Handle Position

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:03 pm
by erco
joelsplace wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2024 7:36 am Now you guys have given me something else to be annoyed by. I had never thought about my knee hitting the window crank before.
Wait until November.

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