This van reached out for help

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Mont3
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Got the front suspension on its own cart so I can work on it. Almost have all the bits to start tearing this down to clean it up, paint it and partially put it back together as I'm still researching airbags for it. Either way, should be fun. Still needing to collect bits for the steering linkage. But little by little. No rush on this project.
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Last weekend I disassembled the front end, removed the bushings and yesterday removed the ball joints in hopes to get these larger cross member and arms to the blaster. I wire-wheeled one of the uppers and wasn't satisfied with the results so they'll get a good cleaning. The ball joints were a SOB as I had ground down the rivet heads and used a punch to no avail so off to my buddy's to get some serious heat on them just as the bushings got. Looking forward to getting them back cleaning up. Moving on...
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Been a while since I last posted. I finished off the front end rebuild with exception of bagging it since I’ve been researching a set up to employ. Between the front end and pulling the rear end off and getting started on it, I found and bought a donor. This donor had the sheet metal I needed to address the areas on my van I needed to get corrected. The poor thing had been in a fire so alot of metal was warped. I salvaged what I could and took the rest to scrap. The weather was another factor holding me up as this past summer, fall and winter was very wet, cold and with alot of snow. I eventually got a window to work in and went after it pulling the rear end out from under the van. Since I had done with this with the donor, I was familiar with what I needed to do in order to make this as quick and safe as possible. Once I had the rear end out, I got a good look at what I suspected was some good damage that this van had experienced. Clutch cable had been McGyver’d as well as the transmission bracket. Something didn’t look right since I removed the other transmission on the donor, the bracket looked different. I later learned the story of a former telephone company employee that knew this van was taken out into the hills by another person along with his lady friend to get some honey on stinger. They somehow got stuck and in doing so did some damage to the van. Well, from taking pieces off this thing, the shifting shaft was all bent up. Clutch cable snapped and was put together with household hardware, angle-iron to extend the existing bracket as I can only surmise the OG transmission bracket was broken off and possibly the transmission damaged really bad. The driver’s rear axle bracket that attached to the Ujoint had extensive welding in place which looks like it broke on some level of impact on something. So whatever happened to this thing, it makes sense that the rear quarter damage in front of the wheel could be attributed to this incident as well. Either way, I thought the story was funny as I though wow, at night with you lady friend in the Blackhills, pitch dark in a phone company van, get it stuck, try to get it out and fail. No phone, have to walk back to come back and try to get it out, explain that to the boss as the fleet truck is a no show to work, towed in damaged...explanation? I didn’t get that piece of the story but whatever it may have been it probably sucked for that guy. It’s my problem now. Here's a pic of the front holding for a set or airbags. The brake conversion will go on after this is mounted back in place.
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She's out!
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Love the cherry bomb...
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Hmmm what's going on here McGvyer?
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Looks like this axle was welded as I can only imagine the beating it took...
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Hows this for a clutch?
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After all the cleaning, sandblasting, Cleaned and repacked bearings, the rear is holding for some bags...
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I found out this transmission is a 4spd from the Code on the side...
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The transmission from my donor is a 3spd. I’m not sure yet if the larger bracket taken from the 3spd can mount to the 4spd and be properly mounted and used. I don’t know if that transmission is from a FC or another model. Anyone have any idea?
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Someone may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that that transmission mount is from a car, the proper mount for a van would be wider and slightly beefier. As far as I know, the cross member mount for a 3spd can not be used for a 4spd, california corvairs has a 4spd van crossmember for 60$. It also looks like the 4spd on your van came from a car, since it has a back-up light switch mounted on the bottom. You can use a car 4spd with the proper van 4spd crossmember though.

I'm assuming you put the axles from the donor van onto yours, I hope you kept the old rear axle bearings since they're specific to the corvair van and difficult or very expensive to find.
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:link: http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... w_page=359

:link: http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... _page=167A

Part number CU263: USED FT TRANS CROSSMEMBER 63-65 FC 3SPD

Weight: 4 lbs 0 oz
Catalog Page(s): U-18
Price: $ 10.00


Part number CU264: USED FT TRANS CROSSMEMBER 63-65 FC 4SPD

Weight: 4 lbs 0 oz
Catalog Page(s): U-18
Price: $ 60.00

bbodie52 wrote:You might contact the Corvair Ranch in Gettysburg Pennsylvania. They have a large inventory of used Corvair parts. Recommend you give them a call to discuss your needs...

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Mont3
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Re: This van reached out for help

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TimeMachineParadox wrote:
Mon May 11, 2020 7:09 pm
Someone may correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that that transmission mount is from a car, the proper mount for a van would be wider and slightly beefier. As far as I know, the cross member mount for a 3spd can not be used for a 4spd, california corvairs has a 4spd van crossmember for 60$. It also looks like the 4spd on your van came from a car, since it has a back-up light switch mounted on the bottom. You can use a car 4spd with the proper van 4spd crossmember though.

I'm assuming you put the axles from the donor van onto yours, I hope you kept the old rear axle bearings since they're specific to the corvair van and difficult or very expensive to find.
Hi Nick,
I guess I should have articulated my earlier post a little better when it came to the crossmembers. I have both for the 3-spd from the donor FC and what I assume as well is a cars 4-spd with the trans axle. I'm unsure if that transmission is compatible to place in an FC as I would think the gearing may be different in getting an FC down the road loaded or am I off? I'm only speculating as I've not dealt with transmissions much. Also don't see a drain plug for it like I do on the 3-spd. On another note, I did get in the gaskets and seals to put it all together and also got some new mounts from Clarks as both sets were spent. Just debating now what to do about the transmission choice.

I did use one of the donors axles as I blew one of the bearings up trying to remove it from the axle...rookie move on my behalf. :doh:
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bbodie52 wrote:
Tue May 12, 2020 4:12 am
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:link: http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... w_page=359

:link: http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... _page=167A

Part number CU263: USED FT TRANS CROSSMEMBER 63-65 FC 3SPD

Weight: 4 lbs 0 oz
Catalog Page(s): U-18
Price: $ 10.00


Part number CU264: USED FT TRANS CROSSMEMBER 63-65 FC 4SPD

Weight: 4 lbs 0 oz
Catalog Page(s): U-18
Price: $ 60.00

bbodie52 wrote:You might contact the Corvair Ranch in Gettysburg Pennsylvania. They have a large inventory of used Corvair parts. Recommend you give them a call to discuss your needs...

:link: http://www.corvairranch.com/


1079 Bon-Ox Road, ​Gettysburg, ​PA. 17325 USA
​Phone: 717-624-2805

fax us by the same number... ask us to hook up the machine

Email: findit@theranch.today

Our hours are Monday thru Friday 9 to 5, Saturday 9 to 12 or contact us for an appointment.
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Hi bbodie52,
Thanks for the links but I have both crossmembers. Just trying to figure out what to do with the choice of transmission. Refer to above post with Nick. Thanks for the reply!
- Monte

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Re: This van reached out for help

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Still confusing. If you are going to run a 4-speed in an FC you need an FC 4-speed mount. The car 4-speed mount will not work.
You can use a car 4-speed but first gear is too tall to start off on a slope. I've had to turn around when I get stopped on a steep incline in my FC with car 4-speed. (unloaded)
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Hi joelsplace. I just read my post and yes, should have not used crossmember but trans bracket. I have both a 3spd one which fits and the car one that is short. Sorry, sounds like having the car trans in isn't mucheck help loaded or not. Gonna keep looking for a 4spd semi-local to up here.
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