Re: 65-69 Suspension on 64?
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:07 am
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Is this the easiest way to change the front to 5 lug pattern? Or can I just use LM spindles and/or just hubs? I know the rear has to have the studs pushed out, holes welded shut and then the new pattern drilled as the LM axles are not the same.terribleted wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:07 amThe LM front crossmember will bolt right in to an early.
I actually am building a 1963 spider, but I have a 1964 parts car. I have the rear leaf and arms for bolting, but I don’t have the 1964 differential it bolts too making the rear set up useless to me. My 63 spider already has a front sway bar, so I don’t think I gain much to just swap in the 64 front. I’m looking more at going to 5 lug as I gain a lot of options with rims if I do that.66vairguy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:02 am If it was a 60-63 Corvair there is some argument for going to a LM suspension.
The 64 suspension was the best of the EM's with the addition of the rear leaf spring. The handling improvement was noticeable. About the only thing you'll gain, based on what I've read, with the LM suspension is a better ride and some improvement in handling, but to me it's not worth the effort.
Not to mention the 64 Corvair is the most sought after EM. A shame to cut one up to add the LM suspension. Better to find a pre 64 if you want to install the LM suspension. Just my 2 cents.
I have not done this mod myself. I know that people have and as I recall they used spindles and hubs , but, I am not positive. Perhaps someone who has done this or is more familiar will chime in.Deadwolf wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:36 amIs this the easiest way to change the front to 5 lug pattern? Or can I just use LM spindles and/or just hubs? I know the rear has to have the studs pushed out, holes welded shut and then the new pattern drilled as the LM axles are not the same.terribleted wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:07 amThe LM front crossmember will bolt right in to an early.
66vairguy wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 10:02 am If it was a 60-63 Corvair there is some argument for going to a LM suspension.
The 64 suspension was the best of the EM's with the addition of the rear leaf spring. The handling improvement was noticeable. About the only thing you'll gain, based on what I've read, with the LM suspension is a better ride and some improvement in handling, but to me it's not worth the effort.
Not to mention the 64 Corvair is the most sought after EM. A shame to cut one up to add the LM suspension. Better to find a pre 64 if you want to install the LM suspension. Just my 2 cents.
Yes 64 was bigger - some say the 65-69 sway bar is a little bigger diameter, other say no. HOWEVER the LM retaining hardware for the sway bar is more robust. The 64 cars are known for sway bar hardware breaking, at least that's the general consensus.joelsplace wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:24 pm The '63 sway bar is tiny compared to the '64. Huge difference.
Are you going racing? If not you'll be sorry if you use solid mounts for driving on public streets. Track racing cars that are set up for limited suspension travel with big tires benefit, but on REAL public roads the solid mounts beat up the body structure, are noisy, and a lack of compliance can cause awkward suspension movement. Just saying -----StukintheMud wrote: ↑Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:13 pm Just re reading some posts here. Any info on who I could order some solid mounts for the engine and suspension on my '64 from? I'm just starting to get my Spyder going again after a long, long slumber. Cheers
If by "reaction rods" you mean the front suspension rods from the lower arm back to the brace with the rubber donuts. Per suggestions I installed the early Chevy II HD reaction rod bushing set. They are beefier than the Corvair and still provide good isolation, but reduce front aft movement during hard stops. Sadly Moog stopped making the part - K6094 see article https://www.stevesnovasite.com/threads/ ... 94.676656/StukintheMud wrote: ↑Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:16 am Thanks for the info. I'll start with the reaction rods, tires and new bushings and go from there. My car is a long way away from being on the road, but at least I'm starting..