Clutch keeps needing adjusment
Clutch keeps needing adjusment
I've had to adjust my clutch half a dozen times since I got the car running. I've only driven it about 500 miles. Its a new Roger Parent clutch cable. I know new cables can stretch but I didn't think by this much. Any other things come to mind that can be causing this?
Scott
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
You didn't say how much you have to adjust the clutch each time, but it seems like something is wrong. A new clutch disc tends to be "fuzzy" and can require multiple adjustments in the first 1,000 miles until it wears in.Scott H wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 pm I've had to adjust my clutch half a dozen times since I got the car running. I've only driven it about 500 miles. Its a new Roger Parent clutch cable. I know new cables can stretch but I didn't think by this much. Any other things come to mind that can be causing this?
Only an inspection of all the parts can say for sure what the issue is.
I've run into this complaint when the clutch pedal arm to shaft weld is failing. Not common, but it happens.
One thing about Roger Parent's clutch cable is it is mostly cable. Nice to roll up for storage. The Corvair cable is mostly a rod. Just speculating here, but I wonder if the longer cable is stretching as it is used. So far I haven't heard any negative issues regarding Roger P's cables. If you find an issue please post and let Roger know.
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
I have adjusted it 3-4 times. Just enough to get the clutch engagement off the floor and back up towards the top of the peddle.66vairguy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 6:24 pmYou didn't say how much you have to adjust the clutch each time, but it seems like something is wrong. A new clutch disc tends to be "fuzzy" and can require multiple adjustments in the first 1,000 miles until it wears in.Scott H wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 pm I've had to adjust my clutch half a dozen times since I got the car running. I've only driven it about 500 miles. Its a new Roger Parent clutch cable. I know new cables can stretch but I didn't think by this much. Any other things come to mind that can be causing this?
Only an inspection of all the parts can say for sure what the issue is.
I've run into this complaint when the clutch pedal arm to shaft weld is failing. Not common, but it happens.
One thing about Roger Parent's clutch cable is it is mostly cable. Nice to roll up for storage. The Corvair cable is mostly a rod. Just speculating here, but I wonder if the longer cable is stretching as it is used. So far I haven't heard any negative issues regarding Roger P's cables. If you find an issue please post and let Roger know.
Scott
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
Not sure if I get what you are indicating. Typically, the clutch pedal should depress about 3/8" of an inch before contacting the throwout bearing. Then the clutch should be fully disengaged in the next inch or two of travel.
If you have to get the pedal to the floor to full disengage the clutch, and the pedal contacts the throwout bearing normally at the top of travel, then something is giving in the linkage, or you have a new clutch disc (when new they have "fuzz" and bumps that must be worn down smooth).
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Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
Could any of you all take some pictures of where to do the adjustments? Sure would be appreciated. T hanks
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Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
The long clutch cable and/or plastic pulleys could be breaking down or deteriorating with age. One or more broken steel strands in the clutch cable could cause it to gradually stretch before it finally breaks. A new clutch cable and pully system inspection may be in order.
If the aging clutch cable plastic pulleys are failing, Roger Parent offers some aluminum replacements on page 6 of his catalog (copy attached below).
The clutch adjustments are made near the transaxle, as shown in the shop manual. Cable and pulley inspections are done under the dashboard and under the car, after removing the access panels. Be sure to use jack stands to secure the car. Never rely on a jack alone to support the vehicle!
See page 7-2 of the attached 1965 Corvair Chassis Shop Manual for clutch adjustment procedures...
If the aging clutch cable plastic pulleys are failing, Roger Parent offers some aluminum replacements on page 6 of his catalog (copy attached below).
The clutch adjustments are made near the transaxle, as shown in the shop manual. Cable and pulley inspections are done under the dashboard and under the car, after removing the access panels. Be sure to use jack stands to secure the car. Never rely on a jack alone to support the vehicle!
See page 7-2 of the attached 1965 Corvair Chassis Shop Manual for clutch adjustment procedures...
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Lake Chatuge, North Carolina
1966 Corvair Corsa Convertible
Lake Chatuge, North Carolina
1966 Corvair Corsa Convertible
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
I already have the Roger Parent cable AND billet pulleys. Although I didn't need the pulleys, the '60 has steel pulleys.bbodie52 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 9:53 am The long clutch cable and/or plastic pulleys could be breaking down or deteriorating with age. One or more broken steel strands in the clutch cable could cause it to gradually stretch before it finally breaks. A new clutch cable and pully system inspection may be in order.
If the aging clutch cable plastic pulleys are failing, Roger Parent offers some aluminum replacements on page 6 of his catalog (copy attached below).
The clutch adjustments are made near the transaxle, as shown in the shop manual. Cable and pulley inspections are done under the dashboard and under the car, after removing the access panels. Be sure to use jack stands to secure the car. Never rely on a jack alone to support the vehicle!
See page 7-2 of the attached 1965 Corvair Chassis Shop Manual for clutch adjustment procedures...
Scott
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
1960 Monza Coupe
1965 Evening Orchid Corsa Turbo (project)
1961 Rampside (project)
1964 Spyder coupe (patina car, running)
1964 faux Spyder (project/parts car)
1964 Monza (parts car)
1963 Monza (parts car)
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
On another forum somebody posted their Roger Parent cable failed after only 700 miles. Roger said he would buy it back. Roger wants to see if their is an issue - hmmmmm.
I've found Roger to be a great guy to deal with and I suggest you contact him about your problem.
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
I'm still using Roger's cable and pulley after a couple of years and a few thousand miles. Haven't had any problems yet.
Good guy to deal with and answered all my questions before I bought his.
Good guy to deal with and answered all my questions before I bought his.
65 Monza
Cincinnati, OH
Cincinnati, OH
Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
Depending on how my day goes, I'll try to get under and take a few pictures. Mine's a 62, but he linkages should be the same. Another area would be the clutch cross shaft and the body mounting for it. I'll get pics of that too. Dennismanofsteel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:22 am Could any of you all take some pictures of where to do the adjustments? Sure would be appreciated. T hanks
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Here are adjustment points.
Again check the cross shaft and mounting. Dennis- terribleted
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Re: Clutch keeps needing adjusment
where the adjusters are on the rods is not really relevant. What is relevant is if you have followed the step by step adjusting procedures in the appropriate shop manual or manuals for your year Corvair. Another thing to check is the clutch lever where the cable connects to the right of the pedal. Sometimes the welds crack and allow the lever to twist on the pedal cross shaft. When the lever twists the pedal pulls the cable less. If you adjust the clutch tighter and the lever twists some more then you are back where you started. If this weld is allowing the lever to twist it must be repositioned to where it is supposed to be and welded solidly in that position again followed by a proper per the manual clutch adjustment. A failing stretching cable can also be in play as can a clutch that is just near the end of its life (worn out).
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