GPS Speedometer
GPS Speedometer
Hello all,
My factory speedometer has failed and in need of a rebuild. Rebuilders are out there, seems the going price for a rebuild of mine is about $300. Other gauges are also failing. So I am looking at alternatives. It looks to me that all the aftermarket mechanical speedo's I've looked at at are all calibrated at 1000 revs at 60mph. The Corvair is 825 revs. I am now looking to go the GPS route.
Is the GPS the best route to pursue?
The car is a '65 Corsa W/Turbo and I would like to modernize, yet stay with the Analog design. I've searched the internet and have found GPS speedo units (Chinese) for less then $100, and better American units for WELL over that. I'm starting my search with the Speedo and the adding other Gauges onto that, staying with the same design and manufacturer.
Other folks on this site that have modernized all of the gauges in a Corsa, what brand have you used? Are you happy with your choice? Problems With fit? Did you stay with the black face gauges or go with white? If possible could you post Photos.
I intend to purchase Performance Corvairs gauge kit. 3 3/8" dia. - Speedo & Tach, 2 1/16" - Clock, Fuel, Cyl. Head Temp & Manifold Inches. Maybe a dumb question, but is Manifold inches the same as 'Boost?
Thank you in advance,
Steve D.
I've posted this question on the Corvair Center site also, Please do not be offended
My factory speedometer has failed and in need of a rebuild. Rebuilders are out there, seems the going price for a rebuild of mine is about $300. Other gauges are also failing. So I am looking at alternatives. It looks to me that all the aftermarket mechanical speedo's I've looked at at are all calibrated at 1000 revs at 60mph. The Corvair is 825 revs. I am now looking to go the GPS route.
Is the GPS the best route to pursue?
The car is a '65 Corsa W/Turbo and I would like to modernize, yet stay with the Analog design. I've searched the internet and have found GPS speedo units (Chinese) for less then $100, and better American units for WELL over that. I'm starting my search with the Speedo and the adding other Gauges onto that, staying with the same design and manufacturer.
Other folks on this site that have modernized all of the gauges in a Corsa, what brand have you used? Are you happy with your choice? Problems With fit? Did you stay with the black face gauges or go with white? If possible could you post Photos.
I intend to purchase Performance Corvairs gauge kit. 3 3/8" dia. - Speedo & Tach, 2 1/16" - Clock, Fuel, Cyl. Head Temp & Manifold Inches. Maybe a dumb question, but is Manifold inches the same as 'Boost?
Thank you in advance,
Steve D.
I've posted this question on the Corvair Center site also, Please do not be offended
Re: GPS Speedometer
Seth at Performance Corvair makes a nice adapter plate. Yes the Corvair speedo runs off the front tire at 825 revolutions per mile. I recall the VW bugs also used that ratio so check VDO.
The Corvair Center forum had a big discussion about this recently.
Most say the "cheapy" China GPS units are junk. GPS accuracy is poor unless the receiver can track multiple satellites. Most GPS speedometers don't work well installed in a METAL dashboard of old cars. A buddy used a programmable pulse speedometer and bought a GPS receiver that outputs a pulsed signal. Push speedo button, drive a measured mile, push button and you're good to go. He mounted the GPS module on TOP of the dashboard near the windshield and covered it with a cloth cover to keep the sun from heating it up. That was years ago and it still works fine.
I like the original instruments for the look, but it's expensive getting them rebuilt. Some like modern instruments in old cars and that's also fine.
Good luck
The Corvair Center forum had a big discussion about this recently.
Most say the "cheapy" China GPS units are junk. GPS accuracy is poor unless the receiver can track multiple satellites. Most GPS speedometers don't work well installed in a METAL dashboard of old cars. A buddy used a programmable pulse speedometer and bought a GPS receiver that outputs a pulsed signal. Push speedo button, drive a measured mile, push button and you're good to go. He mounted the GPS module on TOP of the dashboard near the windshield and covered it with a cloth cover to keep the sun from heating it up. That was years ago and it still works fine.
I like the original instruments for the look, but it's expensive getting them rebuilt. Some like modern instruments in old cars and that's also fine.
Good luck
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Want a cheap way out, and you will always know where you are, Get a Garmin GPS unit and stick it to the windshield:) Nice accurate GPS speed, speed limit info and accurate updatable mapping (Make sure to buy a LMS,,,lifetime maps unit), along with a monster searchable database of roadside attractions and businesses. Of course your phone can also do this and you mount it on the dash:0
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Re: GPS Speedometer
I have a GPS speedo in my '65 Corsa turbo. I swapped all stock gauges out for digital ones. I'm using Seth's bracket. Like you, my stock speedo wasn't accurate. I tried to get it repaired - still didn't work right. I ended up with a Summit racing GPS speedo and sender.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g2981-2b
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-800108
I have had these installed for a couple of years and so far they work great.
There are 2 issues however.
(1) I normally do not keep my battery connected when my car is garaged.This means that the sender has to sync with a GPS sat before it works. This can take a few minutes during which you don't have any speed indicator.
(2) Finding a place to mount the sender might pose a problem. I wanted it mounted on my dash next to my phone microphone. The problem was I could not run the sender wire through the grill because the connector would not fit. I ended up cutting the wire and reconnecting it under the dash.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-g2981-2b
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-800108
I have had these installed for a couple of years and so far they work great.
There are 2 issues however.
(1) I normally do not keep my battery connected when my car is garaged.This means that the sender has to sync with a GPS sat before it works. This can take a few minutes during which you don't have any speed indicator.
(2) Finding a place to mount the sender might pose a problem. I wanted it mounted on my dash next to my phone microphone. The problem was I could not run the sender wire through the grill because the connector would not fit. I ended up cutting the wire and reconnecting it under the dash.
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Instead of disconnecting the battery keep a Battery Minder on it. The battery will last much longer and be fully charged all the time.
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Here is my effort, GPS speedo and a mix of other guages , a little crowded but it fits my needs .
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