Where can I get a Corvair?

[GreenEggsAndSam]

Hey Corvair Forum, it's me, your resident corvair fanboy. So, I've convinced my mother to let me get a corvair as a first project car. However, I'm a little confused as to where I should get a corvair.

Alright, well you guys asked me what my preferences are- Ideally, a four on the floor and buckets with a tach is my only thinks the car "needs". I couldn't care about amount of doors (But a Lakewood Monza would be sweet!). My budget for the car is about $7,000, as that's the cash I've saved for a good few years + Bar Mitzvah money. My skills are pretty limited, but I am 100% willing to learn. I currently live in Eastern PA, right outside of Philadelphia. The model years for the Corvair doesn't matter, as I enjoy the handsome styling of the first gen, and the "muscle" looks of the second gen.

So, for this part, I think I'm gonna expand on myself. My name is Sam, and I'm 14. Earlier, I talked about my location and experience. Experience wise, I've changed a carburetor on a 92' Jeep, and fixed the timing on a 75' Firebird at overnight camp. I've been pretty obsessed with Corvairs since 7th grade, when I discovered them while reading an old car book from my school's library. I do have a garage to work on a car, and I have the tools to do most mechanical stuff.

I hope this helps!

[terribleted]

Well the Chevrolet dealer is likely not the spot:) You can find them anywhere and everywhere. Local ads, for sale listings on here or other Corvair forums (corvaircenter.com is another well used site) and Facebook pages(Corvair Owners Group, Corvair Trader, the CORSA Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/Corvairsocietyofamerica/ ) , auction sites, classic car trader type listings, listings on the CORSA website (corvair.org).

What type of Corvair are you looking for? Early body style ? Late body style? Corvair truck? What transmission is preferred? Particular model? There is vehicles wanted section on this forum...that might generate some leads as well?

[bbodie52]

Well, congratulations on your desire to own a Corvair. My father bought my first Corvair for me to learn on when I was sixteen. He spent about $100 for a 1963 Corvair 500 coupe with a bad Powerglide automatic and a frozen engine. He provided me with his garage to work in, the use of his hand tools, floor jack, jack stands, Corvair Shop Manuals (1961 and 1965), etc. and supported my efforts with funds for parts, machine shop services, etc. I spent my high school summer vacation in 1969 learning to remove and carefully disassemble the powertrain and engine, and ultimately learned to successfully overhaul the engine and transmission!

You did not mention your location, budget, mechanical experience, or a specific year or model range that you are interested in. So below you will find some general information that may help to get you started. Please let us know if you develop more detailed plans that will help us to help you!

Here are several Corvair For Sale websites that may be useful...

eBay is one possibility. There are several specialized used car dealers who focus on finding and selling classic cars. Many are in very good condition. You pay a little more for this "finder's fee", but many of these dealers focus on classic car enthusiasts and the dealers value their reputations. In fact, my current 1966 Corsa convertible was initially spotted on eBay, and I bought it from a Florida classic car dealer in Lakeland, Florida. I took a Greyhound bus from Atlanta, closed the deal in Florida, and drove the car home (571 miles) without any problem in 2012. As with all classic Corvairs, the buyer must be cautious. Sometimes CORSA club members or Corvair Forum members will assist potential buyers by acting as a "third party" to examine local Corvairs that were initially located on eBay. Several Corvair buyers in England and Italy bought their Corvairs in this way with the assistance of Corvair enthusiasts in the USA who helped them (since there was no practical way for the prospective buyer to personally examine the Corvairs before closing the deal and shipping the cars to Europe).


CORVAIRS FOR SALE
http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/pages.c ... =buyorsell


Just Listed!
https://www.corvair.org/go-shopping


Chevrolet Corvair for Sale
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/car ... et/corvair


Classifieds for Classic Chevrolet Corvair
http://classiccars.com/listings/find/al ... et/corvair


http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/che ... rvair.html


Corvairs for Sale
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Corvairs ... 7975069947

Even a for "Corvairs for Sale" will produce many leads.

[bbodie52]

Below is some additional material I wrote in the past that may be helpful...

The initial cost for purchase is relatively low — not really inflated by popular demand as with Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs, and other classic performance cars from the 1960s and 1970s. Labor cost is relatively high, if you don't do your own work. Depending on were you live, qualified mechanics to perform mechanical labor on a Corvair may be difficult or nearly impossible to find. If you are willing to learn to perform much of your own maintenance, the cost of ownership is very reasonable — excellent if you start with a well-maintained or restored Corvair. It is usually much cheaper to pay a little more up-front for a well-maintained car in good to excellent condition. Parts suppliers like Clark's Corvair Parts make most non-body repairs economical and possible. Many Corvairs — especially from northern-tier states — may suffer from severe road salt damage that can be very expensive to nearly impossible to overcome.

Post a lot of detailed pictures on the Corvair Forum for comments. Check the list of CORSA (Corvair Society of America) club chapters, and if there is one or more in your area or near the car's location check them out for advice and perhaps volunteer third-party evaluation of the car(s) you are considering. (Some Corvair buyers in Europe have been successful in soliciting help from Stateside CORSA members who were willing to investigate and evaluate one or more Corvairs of interest that were located nearby).




I would like to encourage you to expand on your post and tell us more about yourself, as well as about your Corvair preferences. Your personal assessment of your mechanical skills and abilities helps a lot. Members of the Corvair Forum love to be helpful in assisting other Corvair owners with technical support and advice, but it helps a lot if we have some understanding of your technical background and mechanical abilities, your Corvair-related knowledge, etc. Helping us to know more about you, your desired Corvair, and you plans for your Corvair will help us to write comments to you that are tailored to your needs and experience. Knowing where you live may also help, as you location may suggest some possibilities or solutions.

The link below will provide you with a list of useful websites that are Corvair-related. Some of the links will lead you to an extensive technical library that will allow you to download shop manuals and other technical references in Adobe Reader format at no cost. There is also a link that will help you to locate nearby CORSA (Corvair Society of America) club chapters. While the Corvair Forum can be very helpful as you work on your Corvair, having local friends and contacts in your region who are knowledgeable about the Corvair can also be very helpful. These family-friendly CORSA club chapters often offer picnics, group scenic drives, technical training and assistance, car shows, and competition events that can greatly enhance your enjoyment of Corvair ownership. You will also find a list of essential Corvair parts suppliers.

Common and Useful Corvair Websites

http://www.corvairforum.com/forum/viewt ... 225&t=6007

I have a long history with Corvairs. My parents bought their first new family Corvair in 1961, and an upgrade to a 1965 Corvair Corsa convertible in 1965. I rebuilt my first Corvair engine as a self-taught DIY "Shade-tree Mechanic" during my high school summer vacation in 1969, and over the years we have had 10 Corvairs pass through our ownership, with our current Corvair a 1966 Corsa convertible (similar to the 1965 Corsa that remained with me and my family for around 30 years).

With that background in mind, here is some material that I wrote that may help to answer your questions...


Owning a classic 50+ year old Corvair could be a nightmare if you make a poor selection. Do you know how to work on classic cars or maintain them? Corvair-qualified mechanics are rare. What kind of budget do you have for this car? If you don't spend enough or select the car carefully, you are likely buying a project car that a hobbyist might purchase for a restoration project. Most Corvairs might be classified as temperamental. They are over 50 years old, and old technology. They require work to keep them on the road, and a maintenance budget. It is not like buying a modern new car.

If the owner/driver learns how to maintain the Corvair, reliability will increase. The possibility of a quick diagnosis as problems develop is also possible as knowledge increases. Or, you can join the Auto Club (AAA) and get membership with a lengthy towing coverage (and be sure to never venture too far from home!) I have driven our Corvairs all over the USA, from coast to coast and in Germany while we were stationed there with the Air Force. One or more Corvairs have consistently been family transportation for most of my lifetime. There is no reason that your 1964 Corvair (which looks to be in very good condition) cannot be considered to be reliable transportation — if your family makes it that way. But it is not a modern new car with all of the latest technologies. It must be maintained and serviced regularly by an owner who appreciates, understands, and takes pride in its condition.

I would recommend reading through the following material, and then carefully consider your skills, abilities and needs. Owning a classic car takes a certain amount of pride in ownership that will give the owner/driver a sense of confidence in driving a classic car that reflects the certainty that comes from really knowing the car.


Please look over the following comments that I wrote some time ago, and see if they might help you with your plans to own a Corvair. You may have already seen these comments and suggestions, but if not, I hope they are helpful...

As a new prospective future owner of a Corvair, I will try to answer a few of your questions directly, and will also provide some material that I wrote in the past to others who were also considering purchasing their first Corvair. My family purchased our first Corvair in 1961 when I was eight years old. My parents bought a brand-new 1961 Corvair Monza four-speed manual transmission coupe. In 1965 they sold the first Corvair and purchased a new 1965 Corvair Corsa convertible (140 hp 4×1 carburetor engine with four-speed transmission). At age 66, it must be painfully obvious that I like these cars, since my wife and I continue to drive a 1966 Corvair Corsa convertible with the same engine and transmission that my parents had in their 1965 Corvair many decades ago.

I have driven Corvairs all over the United States and in Europe as well. During my 24 year career in the Air Force I took two Corvairs with me when we were transferred to an assignment near Ramstein Air Base, in Kaiserslautern, West Germany. These Corvairs easily transported my wife and two children along with me to assignments all over the United States. They were our primary transportation for most of the 24 years that I was in the Air Force. They also did quite well on the German autobahn during my three year assignment in Europe.

To give you some idea of my confidence in driving Corvairs, I purchased our current 1966 Corvair Corsa convertible from a classic car dealer in Lakeland Florida. My wife and I purchased this car in 2012 for our 40th wedding anniversary. I spotted the car on eBay and negotiated the purchase over the phone. Trusting that the car would have no problems with a return trip, I purchased a bus ticket from Atlanta to Lakeland Florida, completed the transaction, and drove the car 565 miles back to our home in North Carolina. The Corvair attracted a lot of attention at practically every gas stop and fast food restaurant that I stopped at on the return trip. I was also the recipient of many smiles and thumbs-up signs at intersections while I waited for the light to change! People seem to like Corvairs, and my new convertible always seemed to attract attention in the parking lot as a crowd of curiosity lookers would gather around the car while asking many questions and telling me stories about their memories of having a family Corvair in their younger days. I can't guarantee that you will always be able to drive a Corvair over long distances without mechanical problems. These Corvairs are more than 50 years old, after all. But if you take the time to learn to maintain your Corvair properly and develop the DIY skills needed to take care of your Corvair, you can probably count on some pretty good results.

The link below will provide you with a list of useful websites that are Corvair-related. Some of the links will lead you to an extensive technical library that will allow you to download shop manuals and other technical references in Adobe Reader format at no cost. There is also a link that will help you to locate nearby CORSA (Corvair Society of America) club chapters. While the Corvair Forum can be very helpful as you work on your Corvair, having local friends and contacts in your region who are knowledgeable about the Corvair can also be very helpful. These family-friendly CORSA chapters often offer picnics, group scenic drives, technical training and assistance, car shows, and competition events that can greatly enhance your enjoyment of Corvair ownership. You will also find a list of essential Corvair parts suppliers.

Common and Useful Corvair Websites

viewtopic.php?f=225&t=6007


I wrote the following material some years ago to answer similar questions from other potential new Corvair owners...

Thanks. I hope my previous comments were helpful. Your comments seem to reflect interest but also uncertainty. I have worked with a number of first-time Corvair buyers in Europe who were considering a purchase of a car from USA sources (to provide a greater range of cars to consider), while knowing that such a effort would make it impossible for them to test drive or personally evaluate the car before purchasing and shipping it. Your circumstances are somewhat similar. They contacted local experienced Corvair owners and aficionados through this Corvair Forum and through local CORSA clubs, and they often found sympathetic club members who were willing to help as local "third party" volunteer assistants.

There is much to consider, and the material below is something I wrote some years ago to try to help the first-time Corvair buyer. Corvairs can be found from sources throughout the United States and Canada. I hope you will find these comments to be useful...

The Corvairs are vintage 1960s technology and design — easy to learn and easy to maintain. I would say that learning to work on a Corvair is analogous to an experienced home DIY "shade tree" car mechanic learning to work on a motorcycle. The concepts and procedures are very similar, but the details and the way it is put together is a little different. With the Corvair engine (like a motorcycle) you are dealing with a lot of aluminum. The metal is soft when compared to steel and cast iron, so the use of a torque wrench, anti-seize compound and carefully avoiding cross-threading becomes more important. Also, (like some motorcycles) you are dealing with multiple carburetors so tuning procedures are a little different. The use of Corvair shop manuals and supplements, other technical guides, and information sources like the Corvair Forum, and perhaps joining a CORSA (Corvair Society of America) club chapter can help you to quickly learn about Corvairs. Information resources, like good Corvair parts suppliers, are plentiful if you know where to look. Suppliers like Clark's Corvair Parts have been well-respected and extremely supportive since 1973, and suppliers like that make Corvair ownership more practical and much-more possible. I taught myself how to remove a Corvair powertrain, overhaul the engine, and rebuild the Powerglide transmission during my summer vacation in 1969, when I was sixteen years old. I was working alone (my father had been transferred by Lockheed from northern California to southern California, and we had not yet moved to join him). I had a shop manual and a garage full of tools. There was no Internet, no Corvair Forum, no CORSA club — I was pretty-much on my own. Yet I learned and was successful (in 1972 that engine carried me and my new bride on our wedding day and on our honeymoon).

So you should be able to master working on Corvairs without too much trouble — except watch out for rust and body rot! The Corvair is of unibody construction, so most body repair involves cutting and welding. The doors, trunk lid (in the front) , and engine compartment lid (in the back) and maybe the gas filler door are the only bolt-on body components. Everything else is cut and weld, and the body serves as the main chassis frame. So unless you are a master body repair technician, you need to select your Corvair carefully and avoid excessive hidden rust or a "Bondo bucket". The door frame areas, fenders, floor pan, the bottom of the trunk, lower windshield and battery area often rust and rot.

What follows is an attempt at introducing new prospective Corvair Owners to Corvairs and some of the issues involved. Food for thought, before you take the plunge. This is a copy of something I wrote earlier, but I think it may be helpful in your quest for the "right" Corvair...

I will try to provide a quick summary of the 1960-1969 Corvair lineup, and will also try to provide some answers regarding the use of a Corvair as a "daily driver".

EARLY MODEL: 1960 - 1964 Corvairs were the first generation. Their body style emulated other Chevrolet body styles from the early 1960s. The rear suspension was a swing-axle design that was similar to the Volkswagen "Beetle". The 1960 model year was the only year with a 140 cubic inch engine, and there were some characteristics that were unique to that model year only. A number of refinements were implemented in the following year, including some restyling of the front end and an increase in displacement to 145 cubic inches (CI). A manual choke was used in 1961, and this was changed to an automatic choke design in 1962 that remained with the car through 1969. A turbocharged 150 hp Spyder was introduced in 1962, and the Spyder name remained with the turbocharged engine through 1964. In 1964 the engine displacement in all Corvair engines increased from 145 CI to 164 CI. There were also some suspension refinements, including a front anti-sway bar and a rear transverse leaf spring to improve handling in all 1964 Corvairs. Here are a few pictures of Early Model (EM) 1960-1964 Corvairs...

1963 Monza Coupe

1964 Monza Convertible

1962 Lakewood Station Wagon

1963 Monza Interior



Corvair Rampside Truck

Corvair Greenbrier Van

Van/Truck Interior

LATE MODEL:The 1965 Corvair introduced a completely new body style, that was also seen later in similar styles in the Camaro and Pontiac Firebird. The drum brake size was increased, and the swing-axle rear suspension design used in EM Corvairs was abandoned. The new rear suspension was a design lifted from the Corvette Stingray.

1965 and 1966 Corvairs were nearly identical. In 1967-69 the top of the line Corsa was dropped, leaving the Monza and economy 500 until production was discontinued in the spring of 1969. During the 1967-69 production period, there were minor safety changes, such as a dual master brake cylinder in place of the single unit used in 1960-1966. Interior seats and trim changed somewhat, paralleling the items used in Camaros and some other GM products during that period.

All 1965-66 Corsas came with a standard 4-carburetor 140 hp engine, and an optional 180 hp turbocharged engine. The 140 hp engine remained optional in the rest of the lineup. Other engine options in the Monza and 500 were 110 hp and 95 hp dual carburetor engines. All engines could be had with a manual 4-speed or 3-speed transmission, or with a 2-speed Powerglide automatic (with the exception of the 1965-66 turbocharged 180 hp engine, which was available with the Corsa only, and only with a 4-speed manual transmission).

Air conditioning was a rare option, but can be found in the 1965-1967 lineup, and some of the EM Corvairs as well. The following link will provide you with some air conditioned Corvair background and history...
http://www.corvair.org/chapters/airvairs/

The brakes, front and rear suspension, transaxle and body were essentially identical in the Corsa, Monza, and 500. The primary differences in the cars were the instrument panel (the Corsa had more gauges), trim details, and the engine option.

The late model Corvairs were available in a 2-door Coupe, 2-door Convertible, and 4-door Sedan. In 1968, the four-door hardtop was discontinued, leaving three models—the 500 and Monza Hardtop Coupes and the Monza Convertible. Air conditioning was dropped as an option. The weight of the cars was very similar in all configurations.


1965 Corvair Corsa Coupe




1965 Corvair Corsa Convertible


1965 Corvair Monza 4-Door Sedan


Corsa Interior (Top) / Monza Interior (Bottom)


140 hp 164 CI 4x1 Carburetor Engine (1965-1969)





Corvairs can suffer from rust and body rot problems, especially in areas that use a lot of road salt in the wintertime. While you may be able to learn and successfully attack most mechanical issues as a DIY effort, body decay can be much-more difficult, time-consuming, intimidating, and expensive to correct. So look for hidden rust or rot problems that may have been covered up with plastic filler, and be cautious in your Corvair selection.

A Corvair can serve well as a daily driver. But I would recommend a backup car or other alternatives, since ANY breakdown can put the car out of service for days until replacement parts can be obtained (if needed). If you have the skills and ability to work on the car yourself, repairs can often be completed fairly quickly. But if you have to rely on professional mechanics, downtime can be long and possibly expensive — if you can find a good mechanic to do the work for you.

Here is something I wrote over a year ago — Brad's Admonition, or some words of advice — based on over 50 years of exposure to Corvair ownership — that I wrote to try to give new Corvair buyers some idea of the issues involved. I'm sure you have some idea already, but I also think this is worth considering...

Since you are new to Corvairs, I want to give you some information that I have written to other new prospective first-time Corvair owners. I have been involved with Corvairs since I was eight years old, when my parents bought our first Corvair – a brand new 1961 Monza 2-door coupe, white on red with a 4-speed transmission. I now own Corvair number ten, which I purchased in June 2012. (If you want to read a brief personal biography that outlines my family background and our experiences with Corvairs, go to CORVAIR FORUM > Introductions > New from Lake Chatuge North Carolina. viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4032 ) I want to encourage your enthusiasm in developing your plans to buy your first Corvair, but at the same time I want to help you to think through just what you are getting into. So please read and consider these comments below...

I have listened to many potential Corvair first-time owners. Many have no prior experience with owning any classic car, and many have never driven a Corvair at all, or have not driven one in decades. Some are motivated by childhood memories of a family Corvair. They typically describe the desire to locate a perfect, restored, ultra-clean example, and look to the Corvair Forum Corvair enthusiasts and aficionados to tell them what to do.

The first thing I think that needs to be done is to try to set-aside the usual emotion-based enthusiasm that any car buyer might feel when visiting a dealer and gazing with emotional eagerness at the vast array of new cars displayed in the showroom, on the car lot, and in factory brochures and advertisements. There is an extreme difference between owning a 50+ year-old Chevrolet that was likely engineered, designed and built with pre-planned obsolescence in mind — a car that GM only envisioned having a life-span of ten years or so. Many of the potential Corvair buyers are captivated with the exciting idea of owning something different — something not normally seen on the road — something that your neighbor will not buy! Certainly that is the case with a Corvair, but owning a Corvair and enjoying that ownership demands a certain dose of reality before you "buy-in". Many are unprepared for the maintenance and upkeep demands of a Corvair. "Where can I find a good Corvair mechanic?" is a common question — often displaying an inability or unwillingness to do some mechanical work and maintain that car yourself. Yet qualified Corvair mechanics can be distant, expensive, inconvenient, and all-too rare. At a time when finding even a spark plug, fan belt, or oil filter for a Corvair often means an Internet or mail-order purchase, finding local support may be unlikely or impossible. Even searching automobile junk yards will often not help, because these cars are so rare and infrequently found that they have all but disappeared from the scrap yards too. Even locating and buying a used part is a mail-order proposition. And even if you spend $15,000-$20,000 for a fully-restored Corvair in mint condition, it still comes "as-is", with no warranty and little in the way of a local support system — far different than what most car buyers are used to expecting! These are the realities of owning an older classic car.

Corvairs are popular and affordable classic cars, and enjoy a good infrastructure of maintenance supporters, owner's clubs, and parts suppliers — and that REALLY helps! But I suspect that most happy Corvair owners are something of "shade-tree mechanics" and hobbyists who are prepared to deal with the risks and problems related to Corvair ownership. It requires a long-term commitment and a dose of reality to happily own a classic Corvair. The "first date" infatuation with the attractiveness and uniqueness of a Corvair will not sustain you in a long-term relationship with a Corvair. It is far-better to have a realistic idea of just what you are getting into before you "take the plunge" and buy your dream car.

A cautious, knowledgeable and educated search for your dream Corvair is a great start, and a careful and realistic analysis of your own mechanical talents, skills and abilities is also useful. If you plan to have a mechanic do most of the work for you, the availability of a Corvair-skilled mechanic and the associated costs involved must be taken into account in your financial planning to own a Corvair.

I try to not be too negative, but I have worked with others who came to realize that Corvair ownership was more than they could handle. I just feel that new prospective Corvair owners come here to this forum to learn from others who have more experience, and we are not doing them any favors by "candy coating" the issues involved. If they pass the "sanity check" and still want to pursue buying a Corvair, then GREAT! This Forum and perhaps some local Corvair club members can potentially help them pursue that dream. But it should be a realistic dream, and not a frustrating "nightmare" experience. Better to make a clear-headed, informed decision early in the game!

I hope that these comments are useful to you. I know I get "long-winded", but I also know you are trying to make an important decision, and I hope all of these comments will help you.

Corvairs can suffer from rust and body rot problems, especially in areas that use a lot of road salt in the wintertime. While you may be able to learn and successfully attack most mechanical issues as a DIY effort, body decay can be much-more difficult, time-consuming, intimidating, and expensive to correct. So look for hidden rust or rot problems that may have been covered up with plastic filler, and be cautious in your Corvair selection.

A Corvair can serve well as a daily driver. But I would recommend a backup car or other alternatives, since ANY breakdown can put the car out of service for days until replacement parts can be obtained (if needed). If you have the skills and ability to work on the car yourself, repairs can often be completed fairly quickly. But if you have to rely on professional mechanics, downtime can be long and possibly expensive — if you can find a good mechanic to do the work for you.

[doug6423]

I recommend a late model Corvair [emoji3]


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[64CorvairMonza]

I wouldn't recommend anything older than a 64' if you want a safe driving car. The 64' models had a lot of the bad bugs removed and was far from Nader's nasty book. I love my 64' Monza Coupe 900, but, am tempted to sell it to buy the 1965 model because I'm a big Camaro fan and I think the 1965 model was the early beginnings of the 67 Camaro which I will always dream of owning, especially the RS/SS model. Problem is finding a clean car that isn't rusted out for a fair price. I got lucky when I found my solid 37,700 mile car. It is in Craig's List Daytona. The 1964 and the 1965 look worlds apart!! IF you want a nice older looking Corvair, then the 64' is for you. If you want a much more modern looking car, then jump many years ahead to the 1965 model LOL..... Not sure what area you are in but I'm in Florida and you can fine mine in the.....SOLD SOLD SOLD. Good luck!! Scott

[TimeMachineParadox]

Heyo from another younger fan here (19).

Not sure if you've seen this listing for a 64 4-door yet, but it looks to be in decent condition, although it doesn't have a title. Might be worth looking into.
https://pennstate.craigslist.org/pts/d/ ... 09580.html

Also, if you'd like, I can PM you my phone/snap if you need any quick help/advice.

[bbodie52]

Your financial budget (for initial purchase, repairs, etc.), mechanical abilities, experience, and the availability of tools and a place to work, your personal preferences for model year, style, initial purchase condition, etc., your location and willingness to travel or ship a Corvair purchase would all have a major impact on the validity of any recommendations that might come your way from the Corvair Forum members.

I would recommend a detailed follow-up post to answer these questions and to help narrow the focus toward vehicles that might warrant serious consideration from you.

[tomk1960]

I know of a '65 Corsa 140 for sale here in MA that's solid and rot-free for $3000. You'd have to rent or borrow a trailer to get it home, but this would be a solid start for a project car. The owner is a big Corvair enthusiast and has at least one other that he's keeping. Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.

Tom

[joelsplace]

Ok Brad - read his first post. He answered several of the questions that you have asked him. He said he has $7000, likes EMs and LMs but especially wagons and went on to list things he has worked on.

Sam - Craigslist is your friend. I've managed to find a few...
Join your local club and get someone that knows Corvairs to look at any car you are thinking about buying. As with any old car you can get burned if you don't know what to look for.
Don't pay attention to the nay-sayers. Buy what you like. If you don't mind people talking to you every time you stop somewhere buy a wagon.
Lots of "discussions" about Early Models "EM" and Late Models "LM" and which is better. You'll also see "FC" with is Forward Control - the trucks and vans.
By the way earlies are better just so you know.

[tomk1960]

Sam, I really like your enthusiasm and interest in these great cars. 14 yrs old is a great age to start learning how to work on them. And you budge is pretty reasonable to start with. You could very well find a running car for a lot less and then you can focus on fine tuning, cosmetics, upgrades, etc. Between now and when you get your license, you could have a very fine running car that will turn heads wherever you go.

Take your time looking and find the car that YOU want. One with solid floors and minimal rust is a great starting point. Mechanical work is easy (IMO) compared to bodywork, and rust is your only deterrent. You will learn the art of being patient for sure, since there will be times when you will need to let penetrating oil and time address stubborn bolts.

If you don't already have a Clark's Corvair Parts catalog, I suggest you order one and become familiar with it. It will become one of your best friends.

If I can help, let me know. There are plenty of us here that are thrilled to see a young guy like you anxious to keep Corvairs alive.

[bbodie52]

» Sun Jan 26, 2020 2:47 pm

Hey Corvair Forum, it's me, your resident corvair fanboy. So, I've convinced my mother to let me get a corvair as a first project car. However, I'm a little confused as to where I should get a corvair.

Alright, well you guys asked me what my preferences are- Ideally, a four on the floor and buckets with a tach is my only thinks the car "needs". I couldn't care about amount of doors (But a Lakewood Monza would be sweet!). My budget for the car is about $7,000, as that's the cash I've saved for a good few years + Bar Mitzvah money. My skills are pretty limited, but I am 100% willing to learn. I currently live in Eastern PA, right outside of Philadelphia. The model years for the Corvair doesn't matter, as I enjoy the handsome styling of the first gen, and the "muscle" looks of the second gen.

So, for this part, I think I'm gonna expand on myself. My name is Sam, and I'm 14. Earlier, I talked about my location and experience. Experience wise, I've changed a carburetor on a 92' Jeep, and fixed the timing on a 75' Firebird at overnight camp. I've been pretty obsessed with Corvairs since 7th grade, when I discovered them while reading an old car book from my school's library. I do have a garage to work on a car, and I have the tools to do most mechanical stuff.

I hope this helps!

My apologies for losing track of your opening comments that did, in fact, answer many questions about your preferences, budget, etc.

There are several CORSA (Corvair Society of America) club chapters in the Philadelphia and New Jersey area, and numerous clubs across Pennsylvania. You might consider contacting these "local" CORSA club chapters to ask if any members have any Corvairs for sale that might fit your area of interest. You probably don't want anything that requires extensive mechanical or body repairs, but instead look for something within your budget with perhaps moderate needs in the mechanical area that you feel comfortable with taking on. If you don't have access to hand tools, a garage to work in, etc. you need to consider that in your search, and minimize the "restoration" aspect of your purchase. Repairs and body work can be a real money pit, and you really need a safe and secure place to work in and adequate hand tools, shop manuals, a good floor jack, jack stands, etc., all which will also drain your budget. Be careful to not over-estimate your abilities. Learning to do your own inspections, repairs and tune-ups is an essential part of Corvair ownership, but taking on too much can really drain your project self-motivation. Working under a car, removing the powertrain, etc. can also be dangerous, so good safety practices are essential. Starting with the cleanest, most mechanically sound Corvair you can afford is probably a wise choice. And by all means avoid purchasing a "Bondo Bucket" that suffers from serious rust, body rot and salt damage! Joining a local CORSA club chapter will likely expose you to experienced owners and a good source of local advisers who may provide valuable guidance and assistance.

https://www.corvair.org/index.php?optio ... crmSID=3_u

https://jtwiley95.wixsite.com/pcacorsa

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/lvcc/

http://www.centralpacorvairclub.org/

http://keystonecorvairclub.tripod.com/

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/wpcc/

http://www.corvair.org/chapters/njace/

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This Corvair Forum member has been carefully documenting his efforts with his 1964 Corvair Monza 900 and just listed it for sale. He is asking about half of your budget, and is located way down in Florida. But if you read over his posts and you find it interesting, you might consider contacting him. You can also consider paying for commercial shipping to bring it up to your area, and this Florida car may have seen a lot less road salt exposure than you might find with Pennsylvania or New Jersey Corvairs. Transporting a solid Corvair from a place that doesn't see snow and road salt might be a wise investment to consider. 1964 is the best year for an Early-model Corvair. It is a Powerglide automatic transmission car, though, but that might make it easier for you to manage as a new driver.



Classifieds - Vehicles For Sale - 1964 Corvair Monza 900
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My 1964 Corvair Monza Record Of Improvements (11 Pages!)
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[Allan Lacki]

Hi Sam,

Whatever you do, don't buy a Corvair (or any old car) sight unseen. In other words, don't buy a car because the photos look good on the internet.

Bring an experienced Corvair guy or gal with you when you go to examine a car that you are considering. Unless you have considerable skills as a mechanic, it is more important that the car is in good shape underneath than up above.

You mentioned that you are in the Philadelphia area. There are two active CORSA chapters in your area. Reach out to them and ask them to lend a hand when you go shopping. Maybe one of the members will be kind enough to go with you when you go to see a Corvair that's for sale. And it's likely the members will be aware of decent Corvairs for sale in your area. They are:

1. Philadelphia Corvair Association

https://jtwiley95.wixsite.com/pcacorsa
https://www.facebook.com/pages/category ... 224056320/

2. Lehigh Valley Corvair Club
http://www.corvair.org/chapters/lvcc/

The New Jersey Association of Corvair Enthusiasts and Bayshore Corvair clubs are farther away, but you can reach out to them, too.

Attached is a checklist for you. It's overkill for inspecting a car that's clearly a project car. But if you're in the market for a really nice Corvair costing several thousand dollars, this should be helpful. Be patient! Don't buy the first Corvair you see!

Welcome to the Corvair hobby!

Allan Lacki,
Secretary, Corvair Society of America www.corvair.org

corvair_prepurchase_inspection_checklist.docx.pdf

A pre-purchase inspection list for high-dollar Corvairs

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[Wagon Master]

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