Dolly towing a Corvair

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Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by Ecklund » Mon May 01, 2017 5:29 pm

It turns out that towing a Corvair with a car dolly works out OK.

It was a little interesting getting the oil pan to clear the dolly center section. Looks a bit odd towing it backwards but eh.

So make sure you check the front wheels as they may not be tight. Ask how I know.

Also airing up the front tires to 'normal' capacity seems to help resist side sway. Again, trial and error.

The '63 700 has been reasonably stable up to and a bit over 60 mph. Could probably sustain higher speeds but not interested in testing the fates.

Dolly towing is certainly an option with a Corvair. Would prefer a trailer.
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by toytron » Mon May 01, 2017 6:50 pm

Also when I worked for a junk yard when we towed a car backwards that didn't have a locking steering wheel we would loop a bungee strap around the wheel and then close the ends outside the drivers door after you pull them tight. It would help keep the wheel from wobbling because you are working against the negative caster built into the steering. If it is a real nice car I am sure you could find nicer ways to accomplish the same thing but that was the way we use to do it back in the day. I would only do this if I was backwards towing with only the front wheels on the ground. If you are flat towing I would not use this method. I am sure many people have done this without the bungee but I personally feel safer.

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by Ecklund » Tue May 02, 2017 10:07 pm

toytron wrote:
Mon May 01, 2017 6:50 pm
Also when I worked for a junk yard when we towed a car backwards that didn't have a locking steering wheel we would loop a bungee strap around the wheel and then close the ends outside the drivers door after you pull them tight. It would help keep the wheel from wobbling because you are working against the negative caster built into the steering. If it is a real nice car I am sure you could find nicer ways to accomplish the same thing but that was the way we use to do it back in the day. I would only do this if I was backwards towing with only the front wheels on the ground. If you are flat towing I would not use this method. I am sure many people have done this without the bungee but I personally feel safer.

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Agreed.

Tied off the steering wheel three separate points.

Would use a trailer if I did it again. Dolly was way too low speed.
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by Ecklund » Thu May 11, 2017 5:55 pm

Here's a couple of pics of the 'rig'.
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by toytron » Thu May 11, 2017 7:16 pm

Happy towing! Nice looking 4 door. Clean looking.

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by gaylon » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:21 pm

I believe that Chevrolet put out a Tech Tip Bulletin saying that Corvair should not be towed on a tow dolly.
I read this after I towed my 1966 Corsa from Cleveland to Westminster, MD.
Everytime, I got over 45 MPH the car would yawl left and right violently.
I thought I was going to make the 6PM News on WKRP!
I pulled over 4 or 5 times and tightened everything to no avail, finally I drove home from Cleveland at 40 MPH!
When I got home I reviewed my Chevy Tech Bulletins and found that I should have trailered the Corsa.
I would be careful and go slow, like 40MPH or lower!
Just saying......gm

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by toytron » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:20 pm

There are many that tow their corvair with a dolly. You need to do it backwards though. I wrapped a strap (bungee) around the wheel twice and then placed the ends outside the door and then closed it. Works just fine.

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by Trip » Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:13 pm

If any of you guys need a Corvair moved in my area I've got a trailer so send me a message. =)
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by azdave » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:21 am

FYI...

In Arizona (and probably most US states), if you tow a vehicle with any wheels touching the pavement, it has to be legally registered with current plates and insurance. Don't get caught and you're good.
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by toytron » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:04 am

Never heard that one Dave. I towed one from Iowa to illinois and I got a thumbs up from a cop in town. I'm gonna hafta check that one out now.

Ok so I checked out a few states and read the illinois state legislature page. So it seems like the reasoning for there being to be only a registered vehicle on a tow dolly is because the tow dolly itself is usually not plated (tagged for those who prefer to use that term). However in illinois you do have the option to have yours registered and a plate installed on it. Now here is some more dirt on it.
If it has a plate it must be visible. If it weighs over a certain amount it must have brakes. And last but not least if it's tail lights cannot be seen then you must have lights placed on the vehicle being towed.
This might be the same for other states but you might want to check yours before pulling a car.

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by azdave » Mon Nov 06, 2017 6:38 am

People can do their own research but I've yet to find a state that legally allows any wheel of an unregistered vehicle to roll on public streets. I find much of the same advise on many RV websites (and those folks do a lot of dolly towing all over the US).

I don't tow with a dolly these days but back when I did I was pulled over had that info explained to me by a state trooper. Just figured I'd let others know and they can make their choice.
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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by bbodie52 » Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:55 am

Many years ago in California I needed to tow an unregistered Corvair that I was restoring when my parents moved from San Jose (San Francisco Bay Area) to Thousand Oaks (Southern California). I was planning on towing the 1963 Corvair on the ground, using a bumper hitch only. I was able to get a temporary towing permit for a one-time journey. I would guess that California still has similar rules now. A brief search of the Internet revealed a similar process in Virginia, and I'm sure many other states also have unregistered vehicle towing permits available.
State of Virginia wrote:Standard Trip Permit

A standard trip permit allows the owner of any motor vehicle, trailer or semitrailer to move the vehicle from one location to another without registering the vehicle. Standard trip permits are valid for three consecutive days. The Virginia trip permit is valid only in Virginia. The customer must contact other state(s) if the travel route is outside of Virginia.

Motorized vehicles must be properly insured or the owner must pay 1/12 of the $500 uninsured motor vehicle fee. Non-motorized trailers are NOT required to be insured; however, they should be pulled by a properly insured vehicle. If the vehicle is designed as a property-carrying vehicle, it must be unladen while operating under the authority of the trip permit.

If you are the vehicle owner and want to move your unregistered vehicle, you are required to apply for a trip permit. You must supply the following information:

Point of origin and point of destination;
Dates of travel;
$5 permit fee;
Insurance certification or payment of 1/12 of the uninsured motor vehicle fee for motorized vehicles ONLY.

Prospective Purchaser's Trip Permit

A prospective purchaser's trip permit is available for Virginia residents who intend to purchase a vehicle that will be titled/registered in Virginia. These permits are valid for three days, beginning on the date of the purchase (as indicated on the bill of sale).

The original bill of sale must be attached to the permit to validate the permit, and the permit must be displayed in the vehicle window while the vehicle is operated under the permit. If the customer has not purchased the vehicle WITHIN 15 DAYS after printing the permit, he must purchase another permit.

If you are a prospective purchaser applying for a trip permit for a vehicle you intend to purchase within 15 days, you must supply the following information:

Make and year of vehicle and any known vehicle description,
original bill of sale,
Point of origin and point of destination,
$5 permit fee;
Insurance certification or payment of 1/12 of the uninsured motor vehicle fee for motorized vehicles ONLY.
:link: https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/vehicles/temp_permit.html

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Re: Dolly towing a Corvair

Unread post by gnrand » Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:35 pm

I am planning on towing a Crown conversion this weekend using a U Haul trailer. I have used a U Haul trailer before on a LM putting the car straight up and towing it from Kingman to So. Ca. If you go with a U Haul trailer. tell them you are towing a early model Camaro. A trailer is only slightly more in cost vs a dolly.
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