Weird Stuff I Found in the Garage

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67) Metallic Brake Shoes - These are separate from the used Velvetouch Metalik front set found in the parts cabinet a few weeks ago.

Is there a way to identify their brand from the paint color and markings used on the shoes, themselves?

These cover both front and rear axles.
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68) Carburetor Adapter Plates

One plate is marked "EELCO" and appears to be for a 2BBL carb, but doesn't have a part number. Another plate is very similar in design to the EELCO, but with an added brace. The third bears no markings, but appears to be large enough to accomodate a 4BBL carb. Is there any more information you can provide on these and their specific applications?
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Carburetor Adapter Plates 03.jpg

69) FC Door Handle Bezels? - The shipping box these are in is marked as containing FC door handle bezels. Can anyone confirm?
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70) Geared Shaft - Looks like a stumpy input shaft. What is this thing?
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71) Other Desktop Item - I'm guessing a transaxle part, but don't know. Andria ID'd it in-person a few months ago, but I did not keep notes that I can find. A mistake I will not repeat.
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72) Third Mallory Distributor - Shipping box says "Corvair Mallory YC Converted to Petronix". I don't know enough about the Mallory, Petronix, Vertex, and other ignition systems to be able to speak to their strengths. What would be the best applications for this thing? What is there to know about the other two Mallory distributors I posted photos of on Page 3?
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#70 is a standard 3.11 1st (2 cuts) gear ratio main drive gear (input shaft) from a big car Saginaw 3 or 4 speed.
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#69 are indeed FC bezels. More specifically, they were used on the door handles and window winders of deluxe trim Greenbriers only. The bezels go between the handle and the door trim panel, deluxe trucks and corvans did not receive door panels and so didn't use these. The shafts for the winders and door mechanisms were also longer compared to STD trim vans to accommodate the extra thickness.
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Phil Dally wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:00 am #70 is a standard 3.11 1st (2 cuts) gear ratio main drive gear (input shaft) from a big car Saginaw 3 or 4 speed.
Historically, what modification has ever created a Corvair application for this type of input shaft?
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Crown V8 Conversion.

Input shaft pictured replaced the clutch gear (main drive gear) in the 1966-69 Corvair Saginaw manual transmission.
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#72 Mallory made performance aftermarket distributors that were mostly dual point. I do not have any first hand experience but I think the dual points were suppose to be more stable and somehow better about high RPM bounce? I think now they would be mostly interesting as period correct speed equipment. The one you just posted would be the best of both worlds due to Pertronix. It is missing the drive gear and thrust washers but they are easy to come by.
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Phil Dally wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:19 am Crown V8 Conversion.

Input shaft pictured replaced the clutch gear (main drive gear) in the 1966-69 Corvair Saginaw manual transmission.
That is bonkers. We are going to have SO much fun digging this sort of thing out of general population in the larger sort. Thanks, Phil.
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SpyderMan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 11:33 am #72 Mallory made performance aftermarket distributors that were mostly dual point. I do not have any first hand experience but I think the dual points were suppose to be more stable and somehow better about high RPM bounce? I think now they would be mostly interesting as period correct speed equipment. The one you just posted would be the best of both worlds due to Pertronix. It is missing the drive gear and thrust washers but they are easy to come by.
Beasty. Thanks, Sam. I just tried calling over to California Corvairs (apparently the original seller back in December of 2019) to get a bit more information on the modification. They were not able to assist.
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Item 71 is a Throw Out Bearing Shaft. http://ssl.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C7463
Clark's Part number C7463: THROW OUT BEARING SHAFT
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I finished going through the second tower of drawers overnight last night. The last of the outright mysteries for that section of the overall project are posted below.

73) Tiny Shrouds / Heat Shields? - One is NOS, the other used. They are similar, but not exactly identical to one another. Also, what I can make out of the number on the GM sticker on the NOS part doesn't match up to any of the shields in the 1976 version of the 60-69 parts manual.
Tiny Shrouds 1 NOS 1 Used 01.jpg
Tiny Shrouds 1 NOS 1 Used 02.jpg
Tiny Shrouds 1 NOS 1 Used 03.jpg

74) Another Tiny Shroud - This was packed in a drawer with the shrouds above, but also with two matched sets of 3867813 and 3867814 shields. I have to think they were more important to whatever train of thought he had going at the time than the hundreds of others that are out in general population. Can these be identified given just a pair of photos, or do they need to be lined up against other versions of the same part for ID by comparison?
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75) Longer Shrouds - Also similar, but not identical. One appears to be NOS, but without a sticker. The other is CAKED with oil sludge, but has more windows cut out of it. Same questions as with 74).
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76) Mystery GM Clutch Cover - Outer box has a group number, but not a part number. Given the black and yellow logo on the box and the makeup of the pressure plate, what does this thing fit? What would have been the original part number?
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Final item:

77) Exhaust Donuts - I found 145 of these in a box near the bottom of the tower. They aren't exactly like the pressed oatmeal versions I found in the other tower, and aren't the skinniest format. Inner diameter is 1.4035". Thanks to Frank, I have a list of applications for each of the diameters. Just not sure what material these are made of or how it stacks up against the other materials that were used for the things.
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Thank you to all who have contributed. There is a lot left to be ID'd. While these items are just the things I couldn't immediately identify, they are just the tip of the iceberg. Will add them to the spreadsheet of items I am preparing for immediate sale once I know what they are.
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Item 73 appears to be the shroud that goes up against the cylinder head on the passenger side behind the ignition coil and distributor. One may be early model and the other may be late model.
Ones with a "Mirror Image" but without the round hole for a wire to go through it would be for the other side behind the oil cooler.

Item 74 has me stumped but reminds me of early model filler plates for the floor pans to cover areas around bucket seats so the carpet has something to rest on although the shape of them seems different.

Item 75 look like 1966-1969 engine shrouds for the driver side. The one with two cut outs would be for the 140 (4 Carburetor) engines while the other would be for everything else.
The 1965 shrouds would have smaller holes closer to the firewall end of the shroud.

Item 76 is a Pressure Plate for a "low HP Engine, and appears to be for the Early vehicles.
The Early Pressure Plate has flat fingers for the throw out bearing to press on.
The Late (1964-1969) Pressure Plate has bent fingers for the throw out bearing to press on.
These are in Group 0.863 Plate, Clutch Pressure

Early use Part Number 3788058 and may have a cast number of 3788058 somewhere on them.
Clarks Part number CX4552: PRESSURE PLATE CASTING-61-63 CAR (EXC TURBO) (CASTING #3788058)

Late use Part Number 3824047 for the 140 & 180 HP Engines.
Clarks Part number CX3591: PRESSURE PLATE CASTING-62-69 140 & TURBO
I don't know why Clarks includes the 1962-1963 Turbo Engines in their description as I think it is '64-'69 only.

Late use Part Number 3988716 for the 95 & 110 HP Engines.
Clarks Part number CX1518: PRESSURE PLATE CASTING-64-69 (EXC 140 & TURBO)

Group 0.886 is for the Clutch Disc so my guess is that the pressure plate is in an incorrect box.
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#76 look like part of the part number is covered by the tape. Both early Corvair clutch disks had a part number that started with 37.
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SpyderMan wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:22 pm #76 look like the part number is covered by the tape.
No such luck, unfortunately.
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I was seeing this. Maybe 37?
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