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Headliner Mystery

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Hello All!

I'm throwing a headliner into a '66 coupe. When I purchased the car, the remnants of the original headliner had pulled away from the edges of the roof and was hanging on by the rods. I'm trying to understand how (and where) the front edge tucks in, but it's like building a jigsaw puzzle without seeing the box. It also appears that the windshield was removed and re-installed with new sealant by the previous owner. I suspect that the area used for tucking the headliner is now thoroughly stuffed with silicone. Here's a photo of that front edge from below looking up and forward. Does the headliner tuck behind that leading metal edge with multiple divots?
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The headliner wraps around the metal in your photo and then above the metal. Once it is in place there is an interior color plastic strip that pushes on to the metal flange to hold the headliner in place. All the sealant that is impeding installation of the retaining strip must be removed. If it is actually silicone that is in there all of it should be removed. Silicone is not a good material to use to install a windshield. I would bet it is likely windshield urethane (it would be a hard material and would cut like rubber). If it is soft it could be some sort of windshield re-sealant. You can try to cut, scrape and remove what is necessary to allow installation of headliner and retaining strip. best solution would be removal of the windshield and any and all caulk or urethane materials and then reinstallation with the proper butyl strip material like was used in the factory. If you do not have the retaining strip to push over the headliner once in place you would need to find a used one as these are not reproduced. You might also be able to use a more common and available U shaped welting and use that. Welting is used in many auto applications at least through the 60's and is commonly available in a few different thicknesses and size. Clark's Corvair Parts sells some in different colors by the foot for use along the sides of the headliners on per 64 cars as well as a number of other spots on Corvairs. I have not tried their material for this application, but I think the contours could work?
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The attached 1966 Fisher Body Service Manual - SECTION 4 - HEADLINING may be of some help. If you would like to download the complete 1966 Fisher Body Service Manual, it can be downloaded for free using the following link...

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Thanks for clearing that up. I'll see how much space I can create, if any.

Terribleted, you mentioned that the plastic strips are not currently produced. Am I wrong for thinking that strip is part C5386 on page 269A of Clark's catalog?

http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... _page=269A
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Here’s some of pictures, front windshield original headliner trim piece
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and Clark’s rear window trim piece
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As you can see they are different.
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You can also just use the aftermarket replacement plastic windlace trim in the front and rear , this the same stuff holding the headliner along the edges.
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ccs42 wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:08 am
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll see how much space I can create, if any.

Terribleted, you mentioned that the plastic strips are not currently produced. Am I wrong for thinking that strip is part C5386 on page 269A of Clark's catalog?

http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... _page=269A
Guess what, that is the correct piece:) I missed that one (and I thought I had the whole catalog memorized). That will make replacement easier. I actually looked before I posted and did not find these as I was looking in the index for windshield trim and it is not listed there for some reason.
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