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interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:21 am

Can anyone help with a pic or diagram for the mounting of the interior courtesy light for 63 spyder convertible? There is a loose wired socket (no bulb inserted) tucked up near the handbrake. Clark's sells the mounting bracket itself, but it is not obvious to me how it attaches. I've had the car since 1987 and never even realized it had a courtesy light capability. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by dave t » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:55 am

There should be a hole in the under dash frame to insert a screw the bracket in place. The light sits up behind the dash shining down. Be careful to bens it up. I scratched my hand on the corners when using the E-brake handle. Test the socket first to make sure it works. The door buttons often fail. There should also be a lamp on the far side of the glove box.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:50 pm

dave t wrote:There should be a hole in the under dash frame to insert a screw the bracket in place. The light sits up behind the dash shining down. Be careful to bens it up. I scratched my hand on the corners when using the E-brake handle. Test the socket first to make sure it works. The door buttons often fail. There should also be a lamp on the far side of the glove box.

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Thanks...I was also planning on lighting up the glove box. There is a wired connector dangling there, but no switch or bulb socket. Will definitely test to see if door switch is working and if glove box wires have voltage


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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by dave t » Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:04 pm

The glove box light is the same on most GM cars around 1964-72 You can get one from a Chevelle, GTO, Cutlass, Monte Carlo etc. Search for your best price.
Test the wire. It should have unswitched power on it unless the fuse has blown. Keep us posted.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by bbodie52 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:21 am

For the glove compartment light switch, I attempted to arrange the picture of the switch and socket assembly to illustrate the internal electrical connectivity. The spring is always in contact with the center terminal of the bulb once it is installed in the socket. The outer metal bulb casing is in contact with the positive wire terminal. The black plastic plunger prevents the spring from contacting the metal (ground) attaching hardware until the glove compartment door is opened. When opened, the spring contacts the metal mount (chassis ground) and completes the circuit, illuminating the bulb.

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Corvair glovebox lighting hardware and convertible courtesy light mounting hardware are shown below on page 93 of the Clark's Corvair Parts online catalog page…

:link: http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog ... IN&page=93
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Part number C9947: GLOVEBOX LIGHT KIT-WIRE,CONNECTORS,LIGHT & BULB

Weight: 0 lbs 6 oz
Catalog Pages(s): 93
Price: $ 25.70


The wiring diagram labeling for the glove compartment illumination lamp is a little confusing in the 1962-1963 diagrams. The glove compartment lamp is shown in the schematic diagram near the HEATER RESISTOR at the top of the illustration. In the 1962-1963 diagram. It is confusingly labeled "INSTR. COMPT. LAMP". In the 1964 schematic diagram it has been relabeled by the GM technical illustrator as "GLOVE COMPT. LAMP" for easier identification.

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1963 Corvair Instrument Panel and Body Wiring Diagram (Dome Light Circuit).jpg
1963 Corvair Instrument Panel and Body Wiring Diagram (Dome Light Circuit)

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1964 Corvair Interior Wiring Diagram
Interestingly, the left-hand and right-hand interior courtesy lamps that were installed in place of the dome lamp in convertibles was apparently never included in the schematic diagrams prior to 1965. The 1965 diagram below clearly shows L.H. COURT LAMP (10567-767 ONLY) to illustrate the differences in wiring for the 10567 (Monza convertible) and 10767 (Corsa convertible) interior lighting, when the dome light was not in use (for convertibles). This detail was omitted in the shop manual supplements for earlier model years.

The courtesy light supports for early model and late-model convertibles are also listed on the Clark's Corvair Parts online catalog page 93 shown above.
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1965-69 Glove Box Wiring
A wide variety of LED automotive interior courtesy lights are available. I found quite a few listed on Amazon.com. Many of these could be easily wired to the existing Corvair wiring as substitutes for the earlier bulbs. They produce little heat, draw only a little current, and produce bright illumination.

:link: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss ... esy+lights
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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:51 am

Just a quick update on these light projects. I installed the new glove box light kit (harness, wire, bulb, switch) from Clark's and it works great. It is nice being able to not fumble around for the garage door opener in the dark.

The courtesy lights is a good news\bad news situation. There was a broken off bulb in the passenger side light socket, which is good since it kept the contacts from rusting. I bought a bulb, inserted it and it works fine. On the drivers side, I got the new bracket, figured out where it goes by mirroring the passenger side configuration, and set it up. Hiwever, when I inserted a new bulb, it blew a fuse, so I needed to figure that out.

Also took the opportunity to put new kick panels in, and they definitely improve the look...simple upgrade for 8 bucks a side.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by cnicol » Wed Sep 06, 2017 12:47 pm

Were you using a two-contact bulb? A single contact bulb will blow the fuse.
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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Thu Sep 07, 2017 4:58 am

No, was using the same bulb that worked on the other side...Sylvania 89.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:00 am

Sorry, shoulda answered yes, was using a two contact bulb.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by gregpenn » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:30 am

A two contact bulb for the courtesy socket?

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:29 am

Well, it is a bayonet base bulb with the bottom and side separately making electrical contact...

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by adamhut » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:21 am

Turns out the contact in the bottom of the socket wasn't seated properly, so when I put the bulb in it kinda folded over and touched the side contact, thus why the fuse blew. Once corrected, it works fine. So now both courtesy lights work.

Also, the bulbs i got from Clark's (turn out to be Wagner 89) don't work since they can't insert far enough for the bulb to turn and be held in the socket. Fortunately, Sylvania 89 do work since the glass bulb isn't as round as the Wagner's and the lip between the metal base and the glass bulb is flatter than the wagners. The Sylvania 89 bulbs can be inserted a bit into the socket to turn and be held in tight.

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Re: interior courtesy light, 63 spyder convertible

Unread post by gregpenn » Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:47 pm

Good to know, thanks.

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