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Ottos valve covers

Unread post by Coolair » Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:43 am

What's the best way to install to insure no leaks

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Re: Ottos valve covers

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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by skipvair » Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:46 pm

I just put some cork gaskets on the covers with permatex 2 on the cover only and used boots from Clarks with built-in washers and have had no problems. I first bought some rubber ones from Clarks that they said were their best, and they were very thin and leaked. Got cork from oreilleys.


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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by Coolair » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:26 pm

Thanks for the feed back going to see if I can source those bolts at the hardware store shipping to canada is getting crazy

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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by joust1 » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:40 pm

If you like, I will take them and for sure they won't leak on you.

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Unread post by lostboy » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:10 am

joust1 wrote:If you like, I will take them and for sure they won't leak on you.
lol I was thinking the same thing.


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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by caraholic4life » Sun Jul 09, 2017 6:39 am

Keep in mind that I have NOT actually had to deal with this for many years but, back in "the day".....

I would apply a very light amount of "Form A Gasket" to the Valve Cover surface only. I would only apply enough to keep the gasket intact. I would install the gasket and allow it to set for a few minutes before installing it on the car. Sometimes I installed the rubber gasket, sometimes the cork depending on what the customer wanted. I prefer the cork but have had no issue with the rubber.

I would wipe the mating surface on the heads to be sure they were clean and dry. Again, I would NOT put anything on the head surface.

When installing the Valve Covers, I would snug the bolts up with a 7/16" socket and short extension using only my fingers.

Once the Valve Cover was in place, I would use a ratchet to further tighten the bolts while watching the gasket closely.

As soon as I saw the gasket begin to move (Squish or Flatten out) I would stop and go to the next one until they were all completed.

Many folks have a tendency to over tighten the bolts to begin with and I suspect this is why the Valve Covers leak.

The reason I do not use anything on the heads is because the Gasket is supposed to do the sealing. The adhesive is simply used to hold it in place during installation. My logic for using adhesive only on the Valve Cover is that when the gaskets need replaced, I only need to scrape the Valve Cover, not the head.

I can take the Valve Cover to the work bench and work on cleaning the surface more comfortably than trying to scrape the head while lying on my side on the floor under the car. The other advantage is that I am less likely to damage the surface of the head because there won't be much effort needed to clean it and the Valve Cover surface is less likely to get damaged. If it does get damaged, it is easier to replace if needed.

This has always worked for me. :my02:

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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by skipvair » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:51 am

Same here. Just get flat washers for the bolts. Same as built in


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Unread post by terribleted » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:41 am

These valve covers will not leak, even with recommended paper gasket, IF, the sealing surface of the cover and the head are totally true and not nicked of damaged. Many of our heads are a bit warped here and there or have nicks etc., a cork and rubber composition gasket will often seal with out without sealants.
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Re: Ottos valve covers

Unread post by bbodie52 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 1:07 pm

:think: :idea: I was thinking that the stock sheet-metal valve covers have cutouts at the top and bottom and sides to accept the rubber tabs on the gaskets seen in the pictures below. This helps you to position the gasket on the steel valve cover in a way that it is held in place while you position the combination valve cover and gasket and then screw the bolts into the head. The aluminum valve covers may provide a more rigid and flat mating surface to press evenly against the gasket, but there is nothing to physically hold the gasket in place when trying to sandwich it between the head and the valve cover. This may cause the gasket position to be compromised during installation, and may make it difficult to get a good seal.

Using threaded studs in the heads in place of the standard bolts may help. Appropriate studs and nuts are offered by at least one Corvair vendor, as seen below. The studs will serve as guide pins to help position the valve cover gasket properly before sliding the valve cover into place. The studs will also help to pull everything into alignment while the nut fasteners are snugged down to secure the valve cover and gasket.

While stainless steel studs with a continuous thread can be used, the special studs offered by Rafee may be more appropriate for this job.

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1960-69 valve cover stud kit, heavy duty, HP: ideal for those who want to run aluminum valve covers, it helps to keep in place; orfor stock ones as well; this kit is enough for the 2 heads, you will get the studs and the special lug nuts. Don't hesitate to call Rafee at 918-413-1548 with any questions you might have. Note: we do sell thick cork valve cover gaskets, some of the bests on the market, made in the USA, ideal for warped head rails, & suitable for all jobs.
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