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Engine internal limits

Unread post by MyLonewolf25 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:34 am

Just curious wha would go first


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Unread post by lostboy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:42 am

MyLonewolf25 wrote:Just curious wha would go first


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That's impossible to say without more info.

Which engine and is it stock? What's the condition of said engine?


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Unread post by MyLonewolf25 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 10:43 am

lostboy wrote:
MyLonewolf25 wrote:Just curious wha would go first


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That's impossible to say without more info.

Which engine and is it stock? What's the condition of said engine?


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Completely stock 62


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Unread post by lostboy » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:20 pm

MyLonewolf25 wrote:
lostboy wrote:
MyLonewolf25 wrote:Just curious wha would go first


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That's impossible to say without more info.

Which engine and is it stock? What's the condition of said engine?


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Completely stock 62


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Well my 61 has been great so far. I have a lifter that makes noise when it's cold. The 80hp is said to be the most reliable version, but they're all pretty stout from what I understand.


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Unread post by bbodie52 » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:53 pm

Mechanically, the Corvair engine seems to be the last thing in a Corvair to fail. It can outlast the body, suspension, brake system, the differential... even the owner! (It often survives a lot of mishandling and abuse from amateur backyard mechanics and previous owners!) The well-maintained Corvair engine has even won the faith of the aviation crowd... enough to often be fitted to single engine aircraft, when a failure of the engine could be a life or death situation.

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take a licking and keep on ticking
1. (idiomatic) To be tough; to have endurance; to have the capacity to absorb stress or damage, but still be able to function.

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Unread post by 64powerglide » Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:39 pm

Rod bearing :my02:
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Unread post by lostboy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:45 am

bbodie52 wrote:Mechanically, the Corvair engine seems to be the last thing in a Corvair to fail. It can outlast the body, suspension, brake system, the differential... even the owner! (It often survives a lot of mishandling and abuse from amateur backyard mechanics and previous owners!) The well-maintained Corvair engine has even won the faith of the aviation crowd... enough to often be fitted to single engine aircraft, when a failure of the engine could be a life or death situation.

It takes a licking and keeps on ticking!

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take a licking and keep on ticking

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Derived from the advertising slogan for Timex wrist-watches.

Verb
take a licking and keep on ticking
1. (idiomatic) To be tough; to have endurance; to have the capacity to absorb stress or damage, but still be able to function.

See: Corvair

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lol my response when someone tells me they aren't reliable is exactly that part about the aircraft community.


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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by MyLonewolf25 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:35 am

Yes but when I'm planning on getting said cat I'm looking at ( the 62 ) I want to know how far I can push the engine physically before it goes ghost


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Unread post by 64powerglide » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:42 pm

I bought a new 62 Monza coupe 102hp, my girlfriend and I took a trip from Kalamazoo Mi. to Detroit. On the ride home we decided to see how fast we could make it back to Kalamazoo. We came from the Windsor tunnel to Kalamazoo in 2 hours 5 minutes. I was running 90 mph plus most of the way. That's a bit over 150 miles with some of it in downtown Detroit. If you rebuild that engine right you can run highway speed all day long!!! That 62 had a 3:27 diffy & 4 speed. I now run my 64 110 hp 75 & scares the crap out of me :eek: , when your 18 you have no fear. ::-):
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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by notched » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:02 pm

What do you mean "push"? Do you mean abuse it? Foot flat to the floor beating the balls off it? Throwing nitrous or something else on it? Please be specific.
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Unread post by MyLonewolf25 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:04 pm

notched wrote:What do you mean "push"? Do you mean abuse it? Foot flat to the floor beating the balls off it? Throwing nitrous or something else on it? Please be specific.
Your answer is yes
To literally all of that


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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by Wagon Master » Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:50 am

Not as weak a link as the 164 inch engines but the stock cast pistons won't hold up under a huge shot of nitrous. After that i'd suspect rod bearings and issues related to elevated cyl. head temps. In that order.

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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by lostboy » Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:33 am

MyLonewolf25 wrote:
notched wrote:What do you mean "push"? Do you mean abuse it? Foot flat to the floor beating the balls off it? Throwing nitrous or something else on it? Please be specific.
Your answer is yes
To literally all of that


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Good troll.

Full throttle beating with nitrous on a 55 year old 80hp flat 6? Should work out well for you.

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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by MyLonewolf25 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:19 am

lostboy wrote:
MyLonewolf25 wrote:
notched wrote:What do you mean "push"? Do you mean abuse it? Foot flat to the floor beating the balls off it? Throwing nitrous or something else on it? Please be specific.
Your answer is yes
To literally all of that


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Good troll.

Full throttle beating with nitrous on a 55 year old 80hp flat 6? Should work out well for you.

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Seeing as the motors have been made to make 250 hp with the Yenkos I'm guessing a 100 shot would be fine

I'm just curious as to how far after that she goes ghost


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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by notched » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:22 am

With a stock Corvair engine. It won't last long. Even performance built Corvairs have to be purpose built for any kind of endurance racing. If you are not familiar with Corvair engines you should start by educating yourself on what they can and can't do and how to build them by getting some of the books out there such as How to Hotrod Corvair engines and Bob Helt's Complete Corvair.They are a lot more tedious to build than any conventional 4, 6 or 8 cylinder engines and require some specialized machining operations to make them last. Also, plan to put out a lot of money. The engine parts are more expensive than more common engines.
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Re: Engine internal limits

Unread post by notched » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:27 am

Yenko advertised but never produced 250 horsepower engine which was listed as Stage 5 for public consumption. You also have to remember that those numbers were in GROSS power ratings. Today that engine would be hard pressed to put 140 horses to the wheels. Most 140's will put about 100 to the wheels.
There are very few modified Corvairs that put an honest 200 horses to the wheels and even fewer that are naturally aspirated. Ray Sedman built an EFI/turbo car that put 360+ to the wheels. But that is most likely a $20k build by the time you are all said and done.
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