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The Quarantine Vair

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Hey all,

I drove this beauty through my junior and senior years of high school until I lost compression in half the engine. I since have gone away for college and she’s been sitting. Corona has sent me home and kept me here which means it’s time to get back to work.
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I’ll show off what I’ve done so far and then seek your assistance in the next post.

So far, I’ve removed the engine from the vehicle using a jack and a furniture dolly.
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I’ve also stripped it of all its sheet metal and have one of the heads removed....
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And it’s not looking great....
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Nonetheless, it’s not a lost cause. This car isn’t going anywhere and I sure as hell have the time to get her back on the road.



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So at least one of my heads is trash. Tomorrow we’ll find out about the other one. Knowing I at least need a new head, pistons and cylinder (and probably a camshaft?), I feel like finding a used engine and salvaging those parts would be the cheapest way to go. I’m also tempted to go with a set of 6 .185 overbore pistons and cylinders I found for 150 and build this thing fast from the ground up. Just thoughts right now, but any advice is appreciated. I’d like to keep it cheap, fast and reliable. I know that’s unrealistic but a man can dream


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This 1965 110 hp 164 CI engine resides in a Corvair Monza that is sitting in San Antonio. Seller says it is "not running", but cars like this may be worth examining if they aren't too far from you. You might just come across a solid engine that just needs some TLC to be transplanted into your car's waiting engine compartment. If it cranks and has good compression, you might be able to get it for little money (salvage title... car asking price is way over its realistic value)! Perhaps some cleanup work and your carburetors could work wonders!

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This is only an example. But a search for a late model donor car with a decent 110 hp engine might be just what your car needs!

:google: :search:


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Rebuilding it with all new parts is best but pricey! You may just luck out and find a local running motor you can drop in or salvage parts from. Keep up the search.
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You are on it! And what a wonderful use of time and money!
Good hunting on engine stuff.
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bbodie52 wrote:This 1965 110 hp 164 CI engine resides in a Corvair Monza that is sitting in San Antonio. Seller says it is "not running", but cars like this may be worth examining if they aren't too far from you. You might just come across a solid engine that just needs some TLC to be transplanted into your car's waiting engine compartment. If it cranks and has good compression, you might be able to get it for little money (salvage title... car asking price is way over its realistic value)! Perhaps some cleanup work and your carburetors could work wonders!

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This is only an example. But a search for a late model donor car with a decent 110 hp engine might be just what your car needs!

:google: :search:


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Was wondering if there were 110 HP LM engines, that’ll help widen the search. Got a few messaged, we’ll see how the search goes, definitely would rather go that route than a full rebuild. Thanks for the advice!


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Sometimes you can buy a "parts car" for less money and with fewer problems then buying an engine by itself. So you might consider looking for cheap Corvairs with the intent of removing the powertrain and any useful parts from a badly rusted or damaged/decayed body. My first engine overhaul (when I was 16) came from a 1963 Corvair 500 donor car. That engine ended up in a clean 1962 Monza coupe that needed an engine, and the combo served me as a teen, when I was married, etc. for a number of years. Sometimes a great engine can be found residing in a badly deteriorated "junker" car, and the owner might not realize the value of the components and will let the car go for very little money!

:search: :typing: :confused: :CGebay: Here are several Corvair For Sale websites that may be useful...
eBay is one possibility...

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CORVAIRS FOR SALE
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Just Listed!
:link: https://www.corvair.org/go-shopping

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Chevrolet Corvair for Sale
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Classifieds for Classic Chevrolet Corvair
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:link: http://www.oldride.com/classic_cars/che ... rvair.html

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Corvairs for Sale
:link: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Corvairs ... 7975069947

Even a :google: :search: for "Corvairs for Sale" will produce many leads.
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A lot has happened in a week- in the world but more importantly... on the Quarantine Vair.

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Meet Lucy, she’s out of a 64 Spyder and has been sitting for a while, but she’s finally getting the attention she deserves. I want fast and cheap so I couldn’t pass up on a 140 that came with 4 “rebuilt” carbs for 200 bucks.

I feel like by taking apart Lucy I’m getting the full Corvair experience- broken bolts, snails, wasps, cobwebs and even barrels stuck to the heads.
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Getting those heads off was a workout... but now that they’re off, here’s what they look like
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Any advice on how to get those barrels off without damaging the head or fins?

Tomorrow we’ll get started on removing and inspecting the valves and inspecting the heads. This project is turning into a full time job for me and I’m starting to learn just how little I know.... but at least I’m learning.



I also scored some deals when picking up the engine.

Entire rebuilt front suspension, rebuilt steering box, new gas lines, new brake lines and hoses for the whole car, new master cylinder, 2 turned rear drums, a cleaned out and painted fuel tank with filler neck and sending unit. All for 400 bucks
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Managed to burn through half of Trump’s money already but it’s going to a good cause



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Wow very nice score!!!!
Maybe spray some penetrating oil around the cylinders and let them sit for a day or so? A little heat from a torch? Heat the aluminum (it expands faster). Be careful not to catch the place on fire. :extinguisher:
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Thanks Scott, I’ll always hesitant with using the torch for that reason but I’ll give it a shot lol


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Nice score!


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Been working on cleaning up the heads and noticed this mark is machined into the mating head. So clearly it’s supposed to be there but is there a purpose to it? Wouldn’t it prevent the head from sealing properly to the cylinders?


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I believe the area you circled is a result of the aluminum head casting process. The machined head gasket sealing/mating surface is seen near the spark plug hole, where the cylinder barrel inserts into the head and seals against the round head gasket.

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Been reading Helt’s book on the carburetors and it looks like I’m in the possession of 4 63 carbs. Also turns out my “new” engine is from a 66 and not a 64.

My question is, since I’m trying to run a 4 carb setup with 4 (primary) 63 carbs, can I modifying two of these carbs to be secondary carbs by cutting the idle tube in the Venturi cluster and plugging up the vacuum tubes? And are there any other modifications I would have to make to these carbs to put them on a 66 140 engine?

Everybody’s been super helpful so thank you guys.



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Lots of people run primary carbs in place of the secondary 140s. I've never heard of anyone running the early carburetors though since they don't have power enrichment circuits.
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