Silicone was on sale, or what ?
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Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Damn, I just spent 30 mn trying to remove this kind of glue that someone used for gasket sealer, idiot ! :x Does anyone out there know what the hell it is, or has run into something similar ? Myself, I found an easy way to seal your engine without going that extreme, I found that white lithium grease, available at your local Autoparts , works awesome, easy to apply, easy to remove when you need to, and good seal. Alright, keep them rolling, peace out !
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Rafee Corvair, parts and service, in the Heartland
www.rafeecorvair.com
tel: 918-753-2486, available 7 days a week, no charge for advice
e-mail: rafee@rafeecorvair.com
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Rafee Corvair, parts and service, in the heartland of the USA
http://www.rafeecorvair.com
tel: 918-753-2486, available 7 days a week, no charge for advice
http://www.rafeecorvair.com
tel: 918-753-2486, available 7 days a week, no charge for advice
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
I can't tell for sure from the pic but it looks kinda like Liquid Nails or Flooring adhesive ?
Yeah - a gasket shouldn't need a bunch of sealer (if any often).
Excess Silly-cone can do much harm to an engine if loose pieces get up against the oil pickup screen.
Yeah - a gasket shouldn't need a bunch of sealer (if any often).
Excess Silly-cone can do much harm to an engine if loose pieces get up against the oil pickup screen.
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Kevin Willson
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
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Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Damn, what's that ? looks like oil slushy, yum yum ! Yeah, what's up with that, people and their weird sealant.
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Rafee Corvair, parts and service, in the heartland of the USA
http://www.rafeecorvair.com
tel: 918-753-2486, available 7 days a week, no charge for advice
http://www.rafeecorvair.com
tel: 918-753-2486, available 7 days a week, no charge for advice
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Looks like Yamabond,
I had to remove it from the engine case when i rebuilt my 78 850 Yamaha.
Stuff is bullet proof
I use a old hack saw blade with an sharp edge from a honing stone.
I had to remove it from the engine case when i rebuilt my 78 850 Yamaha.
Stuff is bullet proof
I use a old hack saw blade with an sharp edge from a honing stone.
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
I can remember while still in school working at a heavy collision body and paint shop. We did small engine repairs also.. Silicone was just starting to come into auto parts stores. The owner of the shop always used Indian Head brand gasket sealer and was not willing to trying anything new.. Once he used it and (we) learned a little went along way, that was all we ever used.. Silicone is great if used correctly..
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actually silicone is to be used alone and is not meant to be used on any gaskets.
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I've been using a product called gasket maker. It is a 2 part procedure where the surfaces are primed with a special aerosol and then a small bead of the gasket material is applied to one mating surface.
This stuff is kinda like a gel. It is much runnier than silicone.
It is anerobic so it doesn't set up until the parts are bolted together.
When it dries it is more like a plastic. Kinda reminds me of a plastic milk jug.
I use it mainly as intake gasket sealer on my Weber manifolds. A regular type paper gasket doesn't last long because it gets crushed by the head bolt torque and expansion.
Kevin
This stuff is kinda like a gel. It is much runnier than silicone.
It is anerobic so it doesn't set up until the parts are bolted together.
When it dries it is more like a plastic. Kinda reminds me of a plastic milk jug.
I use it mainly as intake gasket sealer on my Weber manifolds. A regular type paper gasket doesn't last long because it gets crushed by the head bolt torque and expansion.
Kevin
Kevin Willson
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Looks a lot like PL premium to me and industial roofing adhesive ($5.99 at Home depot , bonds anything)
Use furniture stripper , once it's on , cover it with tinfoil and let it sit.
failing that..
use heat... and lots of it.
Use furniture stripper , once it's on , cover it with tinfoil and let it sit.
failing that..
use heat... and lots of it.
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Hi Kevin. Do you have a manufactor or part number for that gasket maker. I went to Advance, Napa and Autozone.. All they have is the silicone stuff. They had no idea what I was talking about.. I done a Google search and all I came up with are your standard type sealants.. Thanks vaporUNSAFE wrote:I've been using a product called gasket maker. It is a 2 part procedure where the surfaces are primed with a special aerosol and then a small bead of the gasket material is applied to one mating surface.
This stuff is kinda like a gel. It is much runnier than silicone.
It is anerobic so it doesn't set up until the parts are bolted together.
When it dries it is more like a plastic. Kinda reminds me of a plastic milk jug.
I use it mainly as intake gasket sealer on my Weber manifolds. A regular type paper gasket doesn't last long because it gets crushed by the head bolt torque and expansion.
Kevin
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
First -- I'd look for a new parts store !
The can of activater I'm holding has a NAPA label on it. The # is 765-1154
Permatex is the manufacturer. Here's a link to get you started.
http://permatex.com/products/Automotive ... makers.htm
Do a search for "gasket maker" . It's anaerobic !
I can't find my bottle right now
The one I get comes in a bottle about 1" diameter and 3" tall. It goes a long way. It flows kinda hand lotion . It is red in color
EDIT - mine may be in a tube instead of a round bottle.
You are supposed to use the aerosol activater on both surfaces and then apply a small bead to one surface. It starts drying once you bolt the pieces together and there is no air present.
The can of activater I'm holding has a NAPA label on it. The # is 765-1154
Permatex is the manufacturer. Here's a link to get you started.
http://permatex.com/products/Automotive ... makers.htm
Do a search for "gasket maker" . It's anaerobic !
I can't find my bottle right now
The one I get comes in a bottle about 1" diameter and 3" tall. It goes a long way. It flows kinda hand lotion . It is red in color
EDIT - mine may be in a tube instead of a round bottle.
You are supposed to use the aerosol activater on both surfaces and then apply a small bead to one surface. It starts drying once you bolt the pieces together and there is no air present.
Kevin Willson
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Thanks Kevin.. I'll get some now...
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Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Kevin , we used to use something like that on chevettes so I think GM used to make a version of it . Used it to seal the cam carrier to the head . Dad`s gone now , but my brother might know what they called it . I`ll call him.
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I've been taking advantage of our recent unseasonably warm weather and cleaning up and arranging my tent garages.
I finally found the Anaerobic gasket maker that I use. I put two of the small Locktite threadlocker tubes in the scan to give you an idea of size.
This stuff is like a gel and much runnier than SillyCone. It uses an activator but still won't dry until you assemble the parts .
I use it on my intake manifolds and then I can reach in the runner and wipe away any excess that might squeeze out without making a mess.
The texture when dry is unlike silicone. Not stretchy and feels more like plastic than rubber.
The Permtex part # for a 1.69 oz tube is px # 51813 and I buy it at NAPA.
I finally found the Anaerobic gasket maker that I use. I put two of the small Locktite threadlocker tubes in the scan to give you an idea of size.
This stuff is like a gel and much runnier than SillyCone. It uses an activator but still won't dry until you assemble the parts .
I use it on my intake manifolds and then I can reach in the runner and wipe away any excess that might squeeze out without making a mess.
The texture when dry is unlike silicone. Not stretchy and feels more like plastic than rubber.
The Permtex part # for a 1.69 oz tube is px # 51813 and I buy it at NAPA.
Kevin Willson
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
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Kevin have you ever tried any for an oil pan gasket, top cover (fan plate or what ever you call it) or valve cover gaskets? Just curious, or would it not be cost effective?
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It would probably work well on the top cover but I don't think I'd use it on the pan or VCs. It has a thinner consistency than silicone. I haven't used it except for on my intakes so far but i may use it at the base of the cylinders next time. I don't use base gaskets and the silicone that I use starts setting up before I can get all the jugs on and the head torqued.
I have some photos somewhere from when I had it apart last time that show the stuff dry. It is so thin that you can see thru it.
They do call it Gasket Maker and it's supposed to replace the gasket but I don't think it would be cost effective as a general sealant. I still use the high heat copper silicone for some things including my header flanges.
I have some photos somewhere from when I had it apart last time that show the stuff dry. It is so thin that you can see thru it.
They do call it Gasket Maker and it's supposed to replace the gasket but I don't think it would be cost effective as a general sealant. I still use the high heat copper silicone for some things including my header flanges.
Kevin Willson
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
1965 Monza 3.1
Juneau Alaska
Re: Silicone was on sale, or what ?
Only thing I use now anywhere on my engines is Hylomar; best stuff ever invented, but it's pricey.