My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
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My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
My Chilton's manual says that only 1964 4spds had differential dip sticks...so I'm checking in.
Thank you.
Thank you.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Chilton's is wrong. Throw that way and get a real GM shop manual:) 65's had diff check sticks as well.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Interesting... My '65 doesn't...
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
My 64 powerglide does.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
I have the G M (chevy) factory manual. It is the 1965 version.
Found lots of misprints, usually the hard way, when doing repairs.
Both of my 65's have differential dipsticks.
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Found lots of misprints, usually the hard way, when doing repairs.
Both of my 65's have differential dipsticks.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
I know and the Chilton's has errors also. I was really just poking fun.Jerry Whitt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:02 pm I have the G M (chevy) factory manual. It is the 1965 version.
Found lots of misprints, usually the hard way, when doing repairs.
Both of my 65's have differential dipsticks.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Hey, I have the other manuals also and have found that they're all useful for different things. I was checking Chilton's (hard cover, 1st edition) for the fluid capacities section when I found the dip stick notation and found it interesting...the only car I've ever owned with one...I think.
But why doesn't acalson's 65 have one? Is it MIA, or capped off?
But why doesn't acalson's 65 have one? Is it MIA, or capped off?
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Good question. or is it a 66 diff, or is it a 63 transaxle, or? these cars get mixed up you just never know the 140HP engine I am building was actually one side early case the other side late case, short throw crank and rods with late cylinders and 140 heads built by some moron about 20 years ago....shrug.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
64 and 65 differentials came with dipsticks. 66-69 did not although 66-68 still had the cast boss for it if someone wanted to drill it. For some strange reason the cast of the differential housing was updated in 1969 and the casting boss for the dipstick and the drain plug (that was removed after 63) were eliminated. 64 is a 1 year only casting that incorporates the casting for the dipstick and the cast for the transverse leaf spring. 65 is also a 1 year only differential casting as there are some unique features because the gear box design but also has the provisions for the late suspension strut rods. If it does not have a dipstick it is possible someone replaced it with a pipe plug OR it could be a service replacement that did not have the hole drilled and tapped.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Not to highjack this tread but what is the length of the differential dipstick for a '65 Corsa.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
My Corsa was originally built with a 140 engine. A previous owner swapped that out for a Turbo. He may have installed a complete '66 package. I pulled my engine out today - I've been planning to do that for a while. It needs some TLC. I discovered some interesting differences between what the '65 Shop Manual says and what I actually have installed. First off, there are not 2 separate rear strut rod brackets. There is a single bracket which bolts to both sides of the diffy and both struts bolt to it. Second, there are 4 bolts holding the front engine mount to the tranny - not 3. I'll see if I can locate a serial number on the transmission and differential and try to match them up with existing documentation. I'll let you know what I find.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
The 1965 and earlier standard transmissions and differentials had four bolts holding them together.
The 1966 and later standard transmissions and differentials had six bolts holding them together.
The 1965 Corvair cars had 1/4-20 x 1" (plus or minus) bolts for at the universal joint straps to hold the halfshaft in place on both ends. (Link to Clarks page with photo http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C1374 )
The 1966 and later Corvair cars had larger, longer bolts (maybe 3/8-24 X 2") at the universal joint straps to hold the halfshaft in place on both ends. (Link to Clarks page with photo http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C1375 )
In the years since these vehicles were new, there have been plenty of circumstances where the components installed in any given vehicle may have changed from "original". Unless your desire is to have a "Factory Stock" vehicle, function, in my opinion is likely a an acceptable alternative. JMO
The 1966 and later standard transmissions and differentials had six bolts holding them together.
The 1965 Corvair cars had 1/4-20 x 1" (plus or minus) bolts for at the universal joint straps to hold the halfshaft in place on both ends. (Link to Clarks page with photo http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C1374 )
The 1966 and later Corvair cars had larger, longer bolts (maybe 3/8-24 X 2") at the universal joint straps to hold the halfshaft in place on both ends. (Link to Clarks page with photo http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/search.cgi?part=C1375 )
In the years since these vehicles were new, there have been plenty of circumstances where the components installed in any given vehicle may have changed from "original". Unless your desire is to have a "Factory Stock" vehicle, function, in my opinion is likely a an acceptable alternative. JMO
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
On occasion my 64 has a DIP STICK at the steering wheel.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
Your one piece strut rod bracket is not stock. It is likely a Crown engineering piece that is relatively common. I have used them in the past and like them just fine. There is some debate about resulting suspension angles...blah blah blah, some say the strut mounting holes are in the wrong place and should be re-drilled...blah blah blah. I could really not tell any difference in handling or ride between this setup and stock on my drivers. I did find that strut rod installation is much easier with the single bracket when removing and installing the powertrain.acarlson wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:43 pm My Corsa was originally built with a 140 engine. A previous owner swapped that out for a Turbo. He may have installed a complete '66 package. I pulled my engine out today - I've been planning to do that for a while. It needs some TLC. I discovered some interesting differences between what the '65 Shop Manual says and what I actually have installed. First off, there are not 2 separate rear strut rod brackets. There is a single bracket which bolts to both sides of the diffy and both struts bolt to it. Second, there are 4 bolts holding the front engine mount to the tranny - not 3. I'll see if I can locate a serial number on the transmission and differential and try to match them up with existing documentation. I'll let you know what I find.
Does your transmission have a cast or stamped steel side cover? Stamped steel is 65, cast is 66 or later Saginaw.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
I don't care what anybody says THATS FUNNY64powerglide wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:36 pm On occasion my 64 has a DIP STICK at the steering wheel.
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Re: My 65 4spd Transaxle Has a Diff Dip Stick-
That is really funny! And acalson dropped his engine and transaxle-good! I guess the occasional "steering wheel dipstick" was standard equipment...
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